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Monday, June 14, 2010

Gordon Campbell`s and Bill Good`s Stage Play Dismantled!

Unbelievable, today on CKNW Bill Good and Gordon Campbell put on a radio stage play, it was laughable, full of spin, full of false facts, it`s clear from this latest Good/Campbell collaboration that the B.C. Liberals and their minions are in panic mode! Let`s dismantle today`s Bill Good stage play.

First off, Blair Leckstrom was on the Christy Clark show on Friday, Blair was on the Sunday Sean Leslie show and he was on the 8:30AM segment today with Bill Good, for a resigned politician Blair Leckstrom is sure making the rounds, let me remind you what Blair Leckstrom said on the Christy Clark show on Friday.....

"The Federal Government didn`t pursue the HST, we as a Provincial Government ASKED for the HST"

Gordon Campbell said some very interesting things today, one statement from the Habitual Liar really stood out, Campbell said....

"There isn`t one shred of evidence that we were planning on bringing in the HST before the election" snip.

Who would phrase it that way? Only a guilty lying Premier would phrase it that way, Mr. Campbell, is that what we have to do, do we have to find the SHREDDED EVIDENCE first before you admit you were planning it all along?

Bill water carrier Good and Campbell both talked about how revenues collapsed right after the election and how shocked they were that the deficit wasn`t the $495 million they campaigned on and suddenly without any notice ballooned to $2.8 billion dollars, that statement is so laughable because, unless Will McMartin is the greatest clairvoyant in history, Will McMartin wrote in February of 2009 in his toxic fudge story that the Campbell Government was going to be running a $3 to $ 4 billion dollar deficit, Will Mcmartin cited natural gas revenue(price had collapsed to $3 dollars per BTU down from previous $10 to $12 dollars per BTU)...This meant a loss of over $1 billion in Government revenue, Will McMartin cited falling corporate tax revenue, Will cited unemployment surging, Will McMartin cited increased demand on Welfare, Will McMartin cited everything that was going on at that time, so how did Will McMartin know in February 2009 what the deficit was going to be without any Government books at his disposal, everyone of Will McMartin`s concerns were echoed almost word for word after the election by Colin ferret face Hansen and Gordon Campbell immediately after the fraudulent election. I implore everyone to read this story. Here

Anyway, the stage play was a bust, "It`s a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"

Bill Good asked Campbell what prices will be lowered in B.C. as a result of the HST, Gordon Campbell couldn`t cite one example of prices in B.C. that will be lowered as a result of the HST, what the liar Campbell did say was ......

"If we look to what happened in Atlantic Canada, prices were lowered"

Well of course Bill Good and Scampbell didn`t mention that the tax rate in Atlantic Canada before they adopted the HST was 19%......As an incentive to harmonize to an HST tax, the tax was lowered to 15%.....The tax rate was lowered by 4 percentage points, and despite the lowering of the tax rate in Atlantic Canada prices on housing rose, prices on Provincially tax exempted items rose, and on items that were subject to the 19% existing tax, when taxes were lowered by 4 percentage points on them, the overall price fell by a mere 1%.......1% ......But, the tax rate was lowered by 4%, where did the other 3% go? Vanished into a black hole! Read more here on the Atlantic Canada HST, see the difference for your self

And the stage play blunder went on and on....Gordon Campbell accused Bill Vander Zalm of not being honest, Campbell then said that "if you buy a $300,000 dollar condo you will save a whole $400 dollars with the HST".....That of course is unproven, all house buying fees will rise, assessments, real estate fees, inspection fees, notary fees, yet Campbell said nothing of the $70 thousand extra on a $1 million dollar new home, no, he was silent on that!

And friends, the segment was almost sad, you could feel Bill Good and Campbell squirming like cornered rats, of course the attempted brainwash wouldn`t be complete without bashing the NDP, Campbell attacked Jack Layton, Campbell said that Layton doesn`t understand the HST, and this charade wasn`t over yet, Gordon Campbell said.......

"This is a made in B.C. HST"snip...."We set our own rates"snip...Really, what does that mean? We had a 7% PST..5% GST, combined together add up to 12% HST.....Where is a special rate, why didn`t the rate get lowered by 4 percentage points like Atlantic Canada? Or 3%..2% Even 1%.....Again the spin keeps coming and coming.

At this point Good and Campbell start throwing hail marys, Bill Good said to Campbell, "Could the HST be lowered in a couple of years" To which Campbell replied, Bill ......

"Lets be honest with each other" snip......"In 2 years we could lower the HST or raise the HST"snip

Then Gordon Campbell said, if we want services we need to pay taxes, to which Bill Good said..."Isn`t the HST revenue neutral to Government".......Campbell said yes......

Let`s examine that last series, Campbell says the tax is revenue neutral, Campbell says we need to pay taxes for services, Campbell said the HST could be lowered or raised in 2 years, let us be perfectly clear folks, the feds are not going to lower the 5% that they get, so any reduction in the HST in 2 years would come off the Provincial side of the HST, well, isn`t that special, for every point in sales tax in B.C. means approximately $1.6 billion dollars in Provincial revenue, in other words, if Campbell lowered the HST by 2 percentage points it would cost the B.C. treasury over $3 billion dollars per year!........Campbell also made the claim that the HST would be a boon to mining, energy, forestry...

Lets cover that angle while were at it, the BC mining industry made over $3 billion dollars last year in profits, Encana gas made triple their expected profits in the first quarter this year alone, mining and oil n gas are rolling in cash, the HST rebate to them means nothing, as for forestry, Pat Bell is on the record as saying there is about $7 dollars worth of embedded PST on every 1000 board feet of lumber, Pat Bell claims that the HST will help forestry, it won`t, the reason being friends is lumber prices fluctuate, 1000 board feet of lumber has been priced at in the last 5 years in a range of.....Drum roll please....


From a low of $140 dollars per 1000 board feet 18 months ago to a high of $800 dollars per 1000 board feet 5 years ago to today`s current price of $330 per 1000 board feet, with such a broad price range $7 dollars per 1000 board feet means next to nothing, in fact since Campbell took over Government 70 mills have closed, 40,000 thousand lost forestry jobs, even when 1000 board feet of lumber was $700 dollars mills still closed and jobs were still bleeding from forestry, the Campbell Government has absolutely no credibility on forestry,none, they gave the forest away to their corporate friends.

And lets keep on dismantling Campbell`s bullshit, EnCana gas made triple expected profits, they made over $500 million in profit for the first quarter of 2010, a few million more dollars to Encana gas won`t lead to one new hiring, they are already drowning in cash, read it here

And Campbell`s bullshit about mining, well folks, here is another story, you`ll like this one, record profits for BC miners despite the global recession, that`s right, even during the global recession BC miners recorded record profits, the HST won`t lead to any hiring in mining, international mineral and ore prices determine if mining fails or wins, the same with natural gas producers, they won`t lower prices to the consumers because of the HST, their prices are controlled by the mercantile exchange, read about record mining profits here

Were almost done, today Vaughn Palmer was trying to echo the orchestrated spin with Gordon Campbell, I have explained the Vaughn Palmer technique in the past, he starts a column pretending to be critical of Government but quickly starts waffling, defending the HST, and Vaughn Palmer .....Vaughn goes into spin about what services are to be cut if we lose the $1.6 billion dollars in federal bribe money, .....

Really Vaughn, what services are to be cut to service our $55 billion dollar debt? What services are to be cut because of a $600 million dollar stadium roof, or the $500 million over budget convention center, what was cut to pay for the $100 million dollar lawsuit the HEU won? The over budget Olympics, the security costs, the over budget Canada line, the money losing Golden ears bridge....................

You are nothing but a complete obfuscator Vaughn Palmer, your bullshit columns, your subtle con, you work hand in hand with Campbell to spin and manipulate, well that how it appears to me,  and Vaughn Palmer  finishes his column by saying the same garbage as Gordon Campbell said today on Bill Good propaganda show.....

 
You said Vaughn ......"After 2 years of the HST the BC Government could lower the HST by 1% to 2% for 2012"


I can`t understand why a so-called proffssional writer would mention knocking off 2 percentage points off the HST without mentioning the cost to the treasury, once you realize your talking billions and billions every year, and compare that to health care funding, education, and every other neglected minstry, the Government tells us it needs all this money for services and where else is it going to come from, so don`t give me any convoluted airy fairy Government spin about surrendering billions of dollars per year maybe, sometime, possibly in the future the PST side of the HST will be lowered  5%,..It doesn`t make sense, and if it doesn`t make sense it isn`t true! 

Really Vaughn, this Government is running around like chickens with their head cut off, they remove one foot from their mouth only to replace it with the other foot, here me loud and clear Vaughn Palmer, the Government or you can`t have it both ways.....

The Government claims the HST is revenue neutral, the Government and you state that the HST is needed for money for Government services, yet you and Gordon Campbell are hinting about taking 2 percentage points off the Provincial share of the HST in 2012 when you know and the Government knows that it would cost the Province $4 billion dollars per year in revenue, you can`t have it every which way you want, you can read Vaughn`s coordinated column, written to coincide with Campbell on Bill Good show here

Gordon Campbell is dead friends, you can`t save him Bill Good, he isn`t worth saving, Gordon Campbell lied about the deficit, he knew we had a massive deficit, Campbell lied about the HST, Campbell lied about everything, and you Bill Good are a Campbell stooge, stop it, get a life, stop spinning, stop defending, are you that much of a moral asshole Bill Good that you would defend a liar, a criminal, a man who won`t raise the minimum wage, a man who doesn`t care about children living in poverty, your going to get what`s coming to you Bill Good.You can listen to the CKNW audio vault here

Cue up June 14...Blair Leckstrom between 8:30 AM to 9:00 AM.....Gordon Campbell from 9:00 AM to 9:30 AM.....
And folks, I have saved the best for last, read up all you media stooges, back in December 2008 the BC Progress board, a business magazine that Gordon Campbell reads like a bible, suggested that an....
 

"Made-in-BC HST"........
  would be good for business, the progress board states over and over again that consumer prices will rise, housing costs will rise, middle to lower incomes will be hurt the most, and what the BC Progress board states next about adopting the HST will blow your mind, but before we get there............

Gordon Campbell today on CKNW  and in the past used the identical phrase that  the BC Progress board`s December 2008 report to Government first coined and I quote...." Made-in BC HST".......Coincidence, Gordon Campbell read that report, he knew! 

 The B.C. Progress boards states back in December 2008....

"Public opposition to such a shift would be substantial concern for policymakers, similar concerns have thwarted sales tax harmonization by all provinces west of Quebec since the GST was introduced in 1991" snip....
Read the story from the BC progress here

Check out pages 30 through 32.......The BC Progress board warned Gordon Campbell that introducing an HST tax would be political poison back in December 2008, Gordon Campbell read that story, Gordon Campbell deliberately lied to BCers about the HST because he wouldn`t be in power today if he ran on the HST tax during the last election! And the B.C Progress board in December 2008 warned Gordon Campbell of the political fall out, Gordon Campbell heeded the warning and kept his intentions and betrayal secret from the voters, everything else is spin, lies and bullshit!

The Straight Goods
Cheers-Eyes Wide Open




16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Whst media? They are all cowards, as well as liars! Good, Baldry, etc are giving us the bird, as well as blowing the gordo. ENOUGH you lazy bastards, tell the truth. We have had enough! Province, the Sun, NW are all trolls for the elites. Campbell is a liar, a drunk, a womanizer, a breader of iligitmates. Time for all the lying liberals to go.

Anonymous said...

What has been missed is the comments by Billy-B and guest was a caller mentioned the DUI incident in Maui. Billy-B said something like "get over it it is history" or some such thing. Sweep the DRUNK driving under the veil of whatever. But OH BOY the Lieberals NEVER, NEVER let go of the Glen Clark deck do they? Is NW biased no way - - they are so partisan it makes one want to puke. Why do I continue to listen? To know ones enemy is to protect ones back. Bought and paid for NW is a travesty to the air waves.
Frank B.

Anonymous said...

brown can't re-call but we can.

Anonymous said...

gordon manure campbell

Anonymous said...

it was a full court press in all the corporate stooge media, i felt like puking while scanning the province at lunch.that john ferry could win corporate suckhole of the year award.

Crankypants said...

I can't remember whether it was today or yesterday, but there was a caller who stated that he owned a business of some sort, and was for the HST. He went on to say that the implementation of the HST would not cause him to reduce prices because of the time it would take for the savings to materialize. He then went on to state that with the HST, he wouldn't have to raise prices for a couple of years. Statements such as this kind of kick the crap out of Hansen's assertions that we will all reap the benefit of reduced costs to businesses.

I have heard Leckstrom interviewed by Christy Clark, Shawn Leslie and today, Bill Good and not one of the three had the intelligence to ask him how he can profess to sit as an independent MLA and still be a card carrying member of the BC Liberal Party. To me this whole scenario has scam written all over it. Even today Campbell did not sound all that upset about Leckstrom's departure from the fold. Campbell's lack of vitriolic behaviour is totally out of character for him.

Finally, I can't sign off without commenting on the Monday morning quarterbacks, which is more like the Monday morning quarterback and the waterboy. Monty Paulson is nothing but a waste of airtime. He may as well be a mute. I just about puked up my breakfast when Norman Spector stated that Gordon Campbell will be looked upon as one of the best premiers BC ever had, or something to that effect. Paulson said bupkis or maybe he went into his Marcel Marceau gig and mimed a response.

I lied. One more observation. When someone states that the HST will bring about lower prices, just ask the person how much the banks reduced their service charges since they got a $135 million break on their corporate taxes courtesy of Campbell & Co.

Cam

Anonymous said...

Don't you all get it? If the Corporation gets a free ride....then we will get an easier life. Yup, cheaper prices. BIG savings on everything. Why are we all so STUPID? Just give the damn Corp what it wants already! No taxes. Free land. No regulations. Political favours.

Gordo gets it. That's what the HST will do. It will help the poor, lagging, hard done Corp to get something for nothing. It is great for business.

You working class, just so stupid.

Oh crap, where the fuck is my snake oil?

Anonymous said...

About banks, I just received a letter yesterday stating I would be paying extra charges that have been up until now, covered by the package I have. Now those things I now pay for will be gone unless I take out a "new package". You can bet it costs more. Thanks but no thanks. Ripping us all off yet again.

Grant G said...

Indeed so 10:23 AM.....But haven`t you heard, today the big cheeses at our Canadian Banks have endorsed the HST..

And with billions in yearly profits, and now the HST...

Don`t hold your breath for the Banks to reduce fees!

jaydee said...

Seeing red, did you and all canvassers get this email from cheryl baron? Blah, blah, blah and then in red print...."Recently Blair Lekstrom took the brave step to represent the people of his constituency. In doing so he saved his own political career. Province wide he is being heralded as a hero. Will you do the same?"
More bs.....
"By choosing to sit as an independent you will give time to form a new party that represents the people of BC. If you choose to stay the course understand that once recall begins we will not stop until we get what we want, the abolishing of the HST. If that means an NDP government in 2001 then so be it." I blasted her and asked her to let me know who the author is of the red print in her email. "Blair Lekstrom took the brave step to represent the people of his constituency. Province wide he is being heralded as a hero"....a hero??? and for what may I ask? He has had 10 years to represent his constituents and has chosen to solidly back Campbell and the mob the entire 10 years....and profit very nicely from it. Read his resignation, he is a low life and always will be. "By choosing to sit as an independent you will give time to form a new party that represents the people of BC"....stupid me I thought that was a given...blah, blah, "If that means an NDP government in 2011 then so be it". I find baron's partisan politics (or whoever wrote this red add-on) to be extremely partisan in what is supposed to be a non partisan movement. Unbelievable how people can be so brain washed and how many other stupid people believe Lekstrom has seen the light and is born again. The author could not be working the streets, the people hate the HST, Campbell and his corrupt mob.

Hugh said...

This article says the Clean Energy Act will be far worse than the HST:

http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Clean+Energy+will+cost+British+Columbians/3151345/story.html

Paul said...

The CKNW audio vault only goes back to around the middle of March this year

For a really good time, try the CKNW podcasts (MP3)

( http://emedia.cknw.com/Podcasts/ )

The podcasts go right back to 2008 commercial and news free.
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The Bill Good Show

http://www.cknw.com/Episodes.aspx?PID=1116
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The Christy Clark Show

http://www.cknw.com/Episodes.aspx?PID=1140
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Heres a gem with Michael Smyth who was replacing Bill Good putting the boots to a frightened Colin Hansen.

Bill Good Show w Michael Smyth - Thur Aug 13, 2009 - Hour 3

http://emedia.cknw.com/Podcasts/1116/Bill_Good_Show_-_Thur_Aug_13_-_Hour_3.mp3

Put this link into your browser or right-click and "save target as"

Page address: http://www.cknw.com/Episodes.aspx?PID=1116&pn=112

Notice that Hansen says with his voice trembling in fear that he first started talking to the Feds at the END of May.

I'm now at Aug 27th and going forward to the present.

It's a gold mine of past interviews.

Anonymous said...

Jaydee - I sent you that email. You appear to have deliberately ignored the fact that the BC Lieberal's greatest fear is the "socialist hordes" at the gate and an NDP government. So in order to play on that fear and hopefully scare more of them into defecting, I suggested sending the letter to all the Liberal MLAs. They are the ones who seem to regard him as a hero. Fight HST is a non-partisan organization, but when you're playing with people who hesitate at nothing to use dirty tricks, you have to play by the same rules. You'd be surprised at my partisanship.

Anonymous said...

Ya gotta love the goofy suggestion the HST could be lowered. Sure, sure ... but that is going against the grain of some of the other provinces which already have the HST in place.

Nova Scotia, which previously had a PST of 11%, reduced it to 8% with the implementation of the HST, is going to jack up the provincial component to 10%.

Quebec will also be increasing their provincial component and is doing so in 2 stages (so far).

If the HST is/was so good for businesses, how come there weren't wagon trains of businesses heading east once the Maritime Provinces began the HST?

Anonymous said...

Hope everyone that listened to Bill boring today with Michael Levy feels completely foolish for opposing the HST. Bias not accordin to Bill or Mike. We are all fools according to those too lieberal cheerleaders.

Grant G said...

Yea I listened, Michael Levy was pathetic!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The whole show(stage play) was Bill Good and Levy asking callers....Call in and tell us....

"If you don`t want the HST what $1.6 billion in services would you like cut, education, health"

They are so desperate, and of course Levy went on and on saying.....Of course prics arte going to be lowered.....

Yet even McGuinty states the HST will cost middle class families $900 to $2000 per year.

Levy is a fool...Bill Good is lazy, three chins hanging off his old man`s face,and an uneducated moron, the calls were stacked, just ask Martyn Brown.

Cheers