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Wednesday, August 25, 2010

Bill Tieleman`s, Sal Vetro`s, Chris Delaney`s, Bill Vander Zalm`s New Political Party

"What a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"

The "B.C. First Party"


Well well well, there are more NEW revelations involving the latest defection(Justifiable abandonment) from the quazi B.C. Conservative Party by Blake MacKenzie, first off the picture is quite clear to me and soon will be bright as day to all BCers that the Provincial party known as the B.C. Conservative party is nothing but a silent BC Liberal and Federal Conservative party slithering through British Columbia like a snake in the Grass......

Vaughn Palmer after interviewing Blake MacKenzie and a subsequent leak to Palmer pointing him to Elections BC and a new registered name for a new political party ......Elections BC, through Sal Vetro .......Sal Vetro has registered the name "BC First party".....

Personally speaking, I like the name and from what I have read lately by pundits and contributors to my blog and many others that B.C. is desperate for a new political party, the Gordon Campbell liar party is dead and beyond revival, Campbell`s legacy will be one of deceit and corruption and ruinous economic policies, Gordon Campbell will be a long forgotten political name in BC, a nightmare that never happened, similar to the Spanish Flu, the Spanish flu killed hundreds of millions of people around the world, it was horrific and terrifying yet that human disaster is rarely spoken of, it`s almost as if the event was deliberately purged from people`s memory.....

And with the NDP under the wet noodle leader Carole James seems to have lost its way, are they for big business, are they for the people, the environment, for workers, under Moe Sihota and Carole James the NDP traditional strength, the little guy, the worker have been marginalized, Carole James is under the mis-guided illusion that the corporate world will accept her or the NDP, they won`t, yet under Moe Sihota`s direction Carole James and backroom NDPers appear to be squandering their base in an attempt to lure big business, that policy direction will surely fail....

And using my photographic memory I recall a story by no other than Bill Tieleman, it was titled NDP must move left to save the party or something like that, and after a little digging I found the story, and to be honest with you fine folk I agree totally will Bill Teileman on this one, Moe Sihota and Carole James are making a huge mistake by pandering to big business and drifting from their roots, and being wishy washy on the HST....All Carole James has to do is make a public statement saying she and the people`s party will do everything possible to remove the HST, she could threaten to make things very uncomfortable for any Federal party that will block B.C. from getting out of the HST and going against the will of the vast majority of the BC electorate......I believe that no Federal party would risk losing seats in B.C......So to me it appears that Carole James and Moe Sihota are attempting to be deliberately confusing on the HST issue.....You can read Bill Teileman`s story here

Tieleman`s story back in November 2009 was definitely a shot across the bow directed at the NDPs higher ups, are they listening? I don`t think so, I would vote for any Provincial party that puts the middle class and BC home grown business first, business like BC Rail, BC Ferries, ship building, service industry, food and agriculture, I reject any Gordon Campbell corporate shill party or the BC CONservative party that is willing to bend to Ottawa and sell our BC Farm to big American or foreign Multi-National Companies, we have seen the tragic results of Gordon Campbell`s policies, the BC Middle class is reeling and has lost its spending power under a barrage of user fees and hidden taxes, the Gordon Campbell formula is one of failure, look at our forest industry, ship building, look at what is going down at BC Hydro, the ruinous economic disaster of power purchase agreements with no buyers all to be subsidized by a broke middle class, ultimately when even the lowly BC middle class falters and can`t afford the hydro rates eventually BC business too will be subsidizing Gordon Campbell`s corporate thieves!!!!!!

Gordon Campbell couldn`t run a lemonade stand, the man? Is an economic failure, he has always failed with money, he`s clueless, his brother and corporate stooge Michael Campbell must be his advisor, believe me folks they are both economic losers!!!!

So who is Sal Vetro, from everything I have read he really does believe that B.C. should come first and he played a major role in the anti-hst campaign, he believes that BC ceding its taxing authority to the Feds is a grave mistake, I agree....

And what about that name..."B.C. First party"...I like it........

But something about that name friends is haunting me, where did I hear that before, "feets don`t fail me now", where is that photographic memory when I need it......Oh, there it is......

That name "BC First" was coined by no other than........

Bill Tieleman! I will cut and paste it for you and provide the link.

The below is cut and pasted from an article written by Doug Ward of the Vancouver Sun on May 28th 2009
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Tieleman described Vander Zalm as a "B. C. firster" and as a right-wing populist just as former premier Dave Barrett was a left-wing populous.

You can read the whole story here


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What are the odds that tieleman would use that phrase..."B.C. Firster"..... Without first hand knowledge of that name being not only registered but registered by a key member of our anti-hst team?????


And coincidentally Bill Tieleman has gone on holidays today, I doubt he`s prepared to answer questions.

So either Bill Tieleman is a phsyic or seer he inadvertantly or on purpose put the new Provincial party name out there for all to see in May of this year....

I recommend that you read Doug Ward`s entire article, it`s a real good read, where are the Vancouver Sun hiding this guy....

This Powell River Persuader will be "B.C. First Party`s" most staunch supporter and will promote and put your platform out there for all to see.

So do the right thing Carole James and step down as leader before the next Convention, and Moe Sihota.....

Remember your party roots, the working middle class, the underdog, big business will never accept you or your party and by pandering to big business and "The Corporation" you risk losing your base.....And remember this Moe....

"One in the hand is worth two in the bush"


The Straight Goods

Cheers-Eyes Wide Open


21 comments:

Anonymous said...

Grant, Vision BC has also been registered as a BC political party and they have even hired a polling firm to test the political waters. It was reported on Public Eye Online just 8 weeks ago.

http://www.publiceyeonline.com/archives/005090.html

Gregor Robertson making a provincial comeback?

Vision BC or BC First - I wanna get behind a provincial party that I CAN BE PROUD OF!!!!!

Grant G said...

Keep Gregor where he is....B.C. has enough problems without the juice boy getting into the mix....

Sheesh

Anonymous said...

I agree Grant. I thought Gregor would have been the politician I had hoped for. Very disappointed in him and some his group.

jaydee said...

Thanks for the great news Grant.

It sounds like I may not have to plug my nose, (I'm sure I couldn't do that), and vote for useless Carole or horrors...not vote at all for the first time in my life.

I know you will keep us posted on your thoughts (wisdom) and hopefully we will very soon be able to collectively decide who is best to vote for and move on to fully support them and if necessary recall Ms. James in the fall so she doesn't split the vote too, if she doesn't just continue to self-destruct. She does not care about B.C., only herself. I'm sure Ms. James position on the HST is to keep it for the next five years and then get out of it??! That would be a transfer tax by then of nearly $10 billion dollars and countless failed small businesses and many people living in absolute despair and poverty. Good plan Carole....just gooooo.

We need new blood who have not been involved in any way with the B.C. Liberal mob and any of their decisions that destroyed this province.

I have had thoughts that Moe is the premier in waiting for when his ethnic group becomes the majority in 5 or so years and that Carole would fill in until then. Ethnic voting is so scary, so is Moe. So is Carole. So is Gregor, best he stays where he is and does not start another spoiler party.

Oh happy day it is, a ray of sunshine at the end of the tunnel!

Jean

Leah said...

Can you imagine a political party beholden to no one but those who voted for them?! Wow!

I do hope though, that they bring in people with experience...who have never let their integrity be taken from them. Paul Nettleton comes to mind...as does Corky Evans, Elaine Brenzinger, Joy McPhail...the list can go on. Plain spoken folks who say what they mean, and mean what they say.

Can the BC First Party put BC First - and use a mix of both ideologies to our provincial benefit? Ohhhhh...I sure hope!!

I'll be watching very closely, is it really possible we have a 3rd and viable party in BC? Please, say Yes!

Anonymous said...

I submitted this letter to th Nanaimo Daily News todayb and low and behold they left out a line very near and dear to mine and so many others hearts. It was that the Libs support lifting the moratorium on drillig for fossil fuels off our beutiful coast line. What do you make of that Grant.The darkest decade in BC History
Bruce J. Macdonald writes his rendition and perception on what he calls the NDP’s ineptitude in running this Province. I like many citizens of this Province will take the dark few days we had under the NDP to the darkest decade we just witnessed. The following is a short list of cuts and injustices placed on most if not all British Columbians. Tuition fees for Post Secondary education have tripled. Wait times for medical procedures continue to climb. The Provincial debt is 4 Billion higher now than when the previous Govt was in power. Homelessness has tripled. Housing prices have tripled leaving young families and seniors out of the market. Rental housing has surely doubled in price. Gas prices have doubled in part to gas and carbon tax. Addiction issues have tripled . Social programs have been cut . Allowed BC ferries to increase fuel surcharges 12 times in four years with only 15 days notice required. Citizens must now pay for eye exams between the ages of 19 and 64. Raw log exports continue at record levels putting British Columbians out of work. They have increased BC medical premiums for middle income families not covered through an employer. Charge us to visit BC parks to picnic or hike with no noticeable improvements as promised. They signed TILMA, the Trade Investment Labour Mobility Agreement with Alberta that gives developers or corporations the right to sue local Govt if they get in their way of doing business. Cut funding for special needs programs in our schools. Cut funding for special needs Adult programs. They have allowed forestry companies to develop lands within TFL’s Tree Farm licensed areas once preserved for logging and reforestation. They have sold us down the river with 119 private power licences and 545 applications for the same. They are in favour of lifting a moratorium that could see drilling for fossil fuels off our beautiful coast line. They supported the 2010 Olympic games ultimately costing the taxpayers of this province and country as much as 6-10 Billion dollars. This province now has the highest child poverty rate of any of the provinces in Canada. They passed legislation that allows employers to pay our hard working youth 6 dollars per hour as a training wage for 500 hours, this being similar to what was called the Macdonalds bill of the 1970’s (in the USA) paying youth less than anyone else in the workforce. They have neglected our highways to the point where the minimum standards of maintenance are not being met and in some cases unsafe for travel. They continue to support a poverty level minimum wage that cannot support a single working person or a family. They support fish farming that has proven catastrophic results on our oceans. They support fixed roof accommodation in our provincial parks. They tore up health care workers contracts and encourage private facilities. They support natural gas and oil tanker traffic in our local waters. They support a natural gas fired power plant on Texada Island that will increase greenhouse gas emissions. They support private Paramedic/ambulance service. They provide no services to intellectually challenged adults once they reach the age of nineteen. AND NOW THE HST !!! These are just some of reasons this Liberal govt has only 23% support in the latest polls Mr. Macdonald. Anthony B. Parkin

Grant G said...

Yes, I read that letter this morning.....It was a little soft(kidding).....

We need more letter writers, more emailers, more pitchforks!

Join with me in the revolution...

Glad to have you on our team, spread the word.

Cheers-Eyes Wide Open

Anonymous said...

So before you all run off and vote for Delaney's new party ask yourself this....besides being against the HST, what else do they stand for, or is one issue enough to buy your support? For example, both Vander Zalm and Delaney are practising Catholics, and Vetro is an Italian Canadian who has a shrine in his house, which says to me that he's fairly religious as well. Bet they're anti-choice for starters.....Please take some time to see what these people have to say before jumping out with your support. Also, funny how these four have been front and centre in the anti-HST fight. Doesn't anyone feel a tiny bit like they were used as part of these people's ambitions? Think people.....

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said... August 25, 2010 5:05 PM
both Vander Zalm and Delaney are practising Catholics, and Vetro is an Italian Canadian who has a shrine in his house, which says to me that he's fairly religious as well. Bet they're anti-choice for starters....
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Anti choice on what?
Henri Paul

Grant G said...

What makes me feel used and betrayed is a Gordon Habitual liar and Colin Hansen lying their Ffffiiinnnggg faces off on hundreds of issues.

That goes for the whole bloody works of them(BC Liberals)...

Gordon Campbell is finished, dead, walking dead, an adulterous piece of garbage with red mittens covering blood stained hands!

Wendy'sWindows said...

Very happy to have discovered this blog site recently and look forward to reading much more of your view.

I liked this,

Gordon Campbell is finished, dead, walking dead, an adulterous piece of garbage with red mittens covering blood stained hands!

Grant G said...

Welcome to The Straight Goods Wendy....

I`m positive the keen observations from our contributors will brighten the view in "Wendy`s Window"

I hope you`re not easily offended, we pull no punches here, no one is safe, no one gets a free ride, NDP/Lieberals/Cons/Media/

Cheers

Wendy's Window's said...

Thank you..It's all good..I am a big girl. in one ear and out the other..take what you need throw out the rest. I did get miffed the other day about attacks on Gordon and Judi from anonymous people who know nothing of what they write of..but oh well can't fix stupid. I am keen to observe and always have been. Have only voted twice provincially once municipaly and never federally.Only belonged to one political party and that is defunct. I just like to read alot and mostly keeps my thoughts to myself because I know nothing, but always looking for a new perspective to read. Cheers.

Anonymous said...

Please public, stay involved in politics. If the politicians don't work for you, then get rid of them asap. That is what brought us to this mess today, Liar Campbell has had time to set in, bring his rot and infect BC. To many not clever enough to get rid of him years ago.....Our message needs to be, if you don' work for us, then f off.

Kim said...

I am cautious about this party, they are conservatives after all...and driven by Christian misconceptions. I understood Teileman and VanderZalm were not willing to commit to it either.

Welcome to Wendy, it's a wise person who weighs their contribution carefully. You can only learn when you listen.

Grant G said...

I am not yet prepared to promote any party until I see a platform...

I am however open to having a look...

A Governments job is to take care of health, education, children, to promote sustainable BC Business...

As for religion and dread,(The abortion issue)..

It muddies the water, it`s not governments responsibility, it`s a woman choice,pro-or con...
What drives their decision is up to the individual.

I will niether judge nor cast an opinion.

However, we need a political party of the people and I am not prepared to pre-judge..

I am attempting to contact Sal for more information...

You contributors will be the first to know.

Crankypants said...

Maybe I've become jaded in my 61 years on this mortal coil, but the words "political party" send shivers up my spine. Whether they are right, centre or left, they are always beholden to the entities that donate to their cause and even more so to the enablers that coerce these donations. They become the unelected force that operates like a lobbyist, but with more clout.

Meanwhile the MLAs are put in the position of serving two masters, the premier and the electorate. Seeing as the premier has the power to welcome some of the MLAs into the inner circle and banish the rest to the role of spectators, it is easy to see which master the MLAs will pay heed to. The electorate once again becomes nothing more than an afterthought.

As for a party's platform, it may as well be written in invisible ink. It is just a mere suggestion as to what the party will do if elected, not what they will really do. The platform is nothing more than a diatribe to entice the great unwashed, you and me folks, to vote for them.

I also believe that those that have aspirations of becoming the premier of BC should be elected at large, not just because they are the leader of the party that wins the most seats. Our current system elects our premier by proxy, not by the number of votes he or she gets from the electorate. Therefore our premier is chosen by one riding and a group of party members that chose him or her as their leader. Each party operates a little differently as to how they choose their leader, but it seems that most of them sell memberships to enable one to vote for their leader. Thus the person or his/her backers that can sell the most memberships will inevitably become the leader and possible premier. This doesn't sound like any kind of democratic process to me.

Maybe if a party came along with the stance that all their candidates would be allowed to vote as they believe their constituents would want them to vote on all legislative matters, I'd consider them a truly democratic party and worthy of support. I doubt that this will occur anytime soon, so I will continue to vote for any viable independent and if there is none running in my riding, spoil my ballot.

I will not compromise my ideals just to stroke someone's ego. Not now, not ever.

Cam

Anonymous said...

Well Cam, Mike Summers would tell you that would be the Refed party ;)

Grant - drop me an email and i'll give you Sal's phone number if you want to talk to him about the new party.

Grant G said...

I talked to Sal`s wife yesterday, Sal was at work, I told her who I was and what I wanted...

He is supposed to call me ......Unless Sal Vetro is afrid of the Straight Goods...

I await with baited breath..

Cheers

Anonymous said...

Is it the Refed party, that is going along with Alberta's idea, to have the western provinces, separate, from the east? That, the western provinces would be 40% better off?

I hadn't even heard about, the BC First Party. However, I am sure going to read about it. It seems like, we have been stuck, in the same old rut for decades. Politics, are no longer, what is good for the province, nor, the people in it. Corruption and greed, is what really governs BC, and to hell with the people.

Anonymous said...

The BC First Party?

Look at the two characters who co-founded the party.

Sal Vetro ran for:

1. Canadian Alliance Party
2. BC Unity Party

Tim Bonner ran for:

1. Christian Heritage Party
2. BC Unity Party

Just a couple far right-wing, Christian fundamentalist nutbars.