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Friday, December 16, 2011

Don Mcrae, The Man Whose Brain Went on Vacation!(updated)


Alexandra Morton has the Straight Goods, the bottom line, BC Liberals are bold-faced liars and Don Mcrae is a lying(To steal a line from Justin Trudeau)  Piece of SHIT



I mentioned before in a previous post that there is something seriously wrong with Comox Valley MLA Don Mcrae, in my opinion he must be using heavy pharmaceutical drugs, his mannerisms, his complete lack of knowledge on anything, but what`s most disturbing of all is..

The man thinks serious issues are but a joke, there is a time and place for partisan politics and there is a time for answers, serious answers, it`s rather disturbing what a man will say when the aquaculture industry donates money towards his election.

Today`s question period, I recommend you watch the whole session, Don Mcrae rises to speaks jibberish at the end.....

Michael Sather called Don Mcrae`s answer what it was...."The worst answer ever given in question period history", and I agree..

When Michael Sather asked this minister about the Norwegian ISA SALMON ANEMIA VIRUS found in BC`s wild Salmon,

TEST RESULTS FOR DISEASE
IN WILD SALMON
M. Sather: "The infectious salmon anemia virus has been discovered in wild salmon in Rivers Inlet. This is a potentially devastating disease that hasn't been reported before in the North Pacific.

The Chilean farming industry was devastated by this same virus: $2 billion in losses, production cut by half and 26,000 people laid off.

We have a lot more to be concerned about here in British Columbia as well. We have our world-renowned sport-fishing industry, our commercial industry and our First Nations food fishery.


Now, Dr. James Winton, who leads the fish health research group at the Western Fisheries Research Center in Seattle, called this outbreak a "disease emergency." My question to the Minister of Agriculture is: does he agree with the assessment of Dr. Winton
?"

To which Don Mcrae said.....

Hon. D. McRae: "Well, we've got another example of spinning media headlines and fearmongering from the opposition.
The reality is this. The lab results were sent to PEI. They were sent to PEI. They were not following protocol when, instead of actually contacting CFIA, they went directly to SFU, which in turn went to the media.
When CFIA then, in turn, said, "We'd like to do our test samples," and said, "We'd like to test the fish," well, unfortunately, I'm advised that the tested-positive results at the PEI lab were destroyed, and therefore, not available to CFIA.
Now, what I want to make sure that we have very clear in this chamber today for all members here and all members of the public is that ISA poses no risk to human health. I don't want people leaving this chamber for one second thinking that ISA is a problem to human health
"

Well well well Don Mcrae, this isn`t about the health concerns of people, it`s about the survival of BC`s wild salmon, you are such a dolt Mcrae!

Michael Sather then scolded Don Mcrae for his idiotic answer.

"M. Sather: Well, in my time in this House that has got to be one of the worst answers I have ever heard. The minister is really making a mistake in going this route.
Those fish were tested by the World Organisation for Animal Health. Now, if the minister wants to quibble with the worldwide body that's responsible for fish health, go ahead — fill your boots — but you're making a big mistake.
And you're making a big mistake about not taking what's happening to our fish, our wild fish, our salmon farm fish in this province…. You're not taking it seriously, Minister, and you ought to be ashamed and apologize right now."


Don Mcrae  then made this stupid comeback

"What's really important, though, is that when an allegation or a test is done, we make sure that the protocols are done to make sure that CFIA (Canadian food inspection agency) can ensure that these results were fair, accurate and basically making sure that they react accordingly.
One study needs to be backed with another
."

You Don Mcrae are not worthy of being an MLA, your brain is missing, you are as useless as a sack of hammers!

How many studies will it take Don Mcrae?

My two questions to Christy Clucking Clark are......

How on earth could Don Mcrae be the minister of anything.....And is Harry Bloy Don Mcrae`s Uncle?


The potential loss of BC`s wild salmon is very serious.....If you were in front of me Don Mcrae, I would slap you silly with an Atlantic Salmon!

Watch the shocking question period here.

Updated here.....Our clown minister Don Mcrae may not take the matter serious but our Americans neighbors do,...Three count em three  US senators are demanding action from both the Canadian Federal Government and the BC Provincial Government on the ISA breakout on our central coast, these senators are worried about the survival of wild salmon in both Washington state and Alaska.....Tens of thousands of jobs could be lost with a major outbreak....Here is a little cut n paste.....

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The Harper government, which on Thursday described as "inconclusive" tests showing British Columbia wild sockeye salmon have been infected with a potentially devastating virus, isn't taking the matter as seriously as top politicians in the U.S., the House of Commons was told Thursday.
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The New Democratic Party drew attention to a statement issued earlier in the day by three American senators who have made a bipartisan appeal to U.S. government officials to probe the possible spread of infectious salmon anemia.
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The senators, describing the disease as "the Canadian salmon virus," are calling on the National Aquatic Animal Health Task Force to analyze the risk of it spreading.
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"We need to act now to protect the Pacific Northwest's coastal economy and jobs," Washington state Senator Maria Cantwell said.
"There's no threat to human health, but infectious salmon anemia could pose a serious threat to Pacific Northwest wild salmon and the thousands of Washington State jobs that rely on them."
 ______________________________________________________________________________________________
NDP fisheries critic Fin Donnelly said the Canadian government isn't taking seriously the news earlier this week sockeye tested positive for the disease.
 ____________________________________________________________________________________It has been described as the first time the disease has been detected on the West Coast, and Routledge said the only "plausible" source was fish farms.
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Morton has alleged that the virus also likely is to be found in B.C. farmed salmon, though the government and aquaculture industry said there's no evidence of that.
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"The U.S. recognizes the urgent need to protect their coastal economy and jobs, but this government is mute," 
.______________________________________________________________________________________________
 The virus found on the two smolts has been identified as the European strain of the virus, which has been found in Atlantic wild salmon. B.C. has imported more than 30 million Atlantic salmon eggs over the past 25 years.
  __________________________________________________________________________________________
The same virus pummeled Chilean fish farms in 2007-08, killing millions of fish and resulting in several fish farm and processing plant closures.
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The three U.S. senators are Cantwell, a Democrat, and two Alaskans, Republican Lisa Murkowski and Democrat Mark Begich.
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The Alaskan senators used the news release to contrast their state's policy of promoting the wild salmon fishery against the government-supported B.C. aquaculture industry.
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Begich said the B.C. virus is a threat to Alaska, "the world's premier producer of wild salmon."

Read the whole story here


 Don Mcrae and the BC Liberals may think this is a game of hide and seek, hide the data, hide the real story, deny delay and deflect, I can guarantee you this, if there is ISA  the Americans will find and prove it, all around the world from Chile to Scotland to Norway wild salmon runs have been devastated by diseased farmed fish.....You can`t have tens of thousands of salmon living in a bathtub without disease, the salmon get sick and die,  fish farmers attempt to mitigate disease with the use of toxic chemicals and loading farmed salmon with antibiotics,it doesn`t work!

Don Mcrae,.....Perhaps you might want to try your comedy routine on those three American Senators!

This post originally appeared here 2 months ago....With new evidence proving that the BC Liberals and DFO are lying pieces of garbage it deserved a re-posting!

The Straight Goods

Cheers Eyes Wide Open

14 comments:

priscilla judd said...

Sorry, I can't download the video - perhaps I will find his talk in Hansard... anyway, I thought you might like to know this info - mainstream media isn't talking about this place.

GMO salmon (Aquabounty GMO Atlantic salmon are being raised in West Vancouver)

http://www.nsnews.com/health/science+bigger+salmon/4502286/story.html
(better copy the story before they take it offline)

“The tanks contain one million litres of seawater and wild-type fish designed to act as a control group …”

So where does the million litres of polluted tank water with giant salmon poop and bacteria and hormones go? Have West Van's GMO salmon been tested for a virus?

Anonymous said...

Where did she find this clunker? He is not on the same page as anyone else. He tried to reply, but he...got...lost. Cristy is running out of people to put in front of her. Time for an election.

Kam Lee

Anonymous said...

TEST RESULTS FOR DISEASE
IN WILD SALMON
M. Sather: The infectious salmon anemia virus has been discovered in wild salmon in Rivers Inlet. This is a potentially devastating disease that hasn't been reported before in the North Pacific. The Chilean farming industry was devastated by this same virus: $2 billion in losses, production cut by half and 26,000 people laid off.
We have a lot more to be concerned about here in British Columbia as well. We have our world-renowned sport-fishing industry, our commercial industry and our First Nations food fishery.
Now, Dr. James Winton, who leads the fish health research group at the Western Fisheries Research Center in Seattle, called this outbreak a "disease emergency." My question to the Minister of Agriculture is: does he agree with the assessment of Dr. Winton?
Hon. D. McRae: Well, we've got another example of spinning media headlines and fearmongering from the opposition.
The reality is this. The lab results were sent to PEI. They were sent to PEI. They were not following protocol when, instead of actually contacting CFIA, they went directly to SFU, which in turn went to the media.
When CFIA then, in turn, said, "We'd like to do our test samples," and said, "We'd like to test the fish," well, unfortunately, I'm advised that the tested-positive results at the PEI lab were destroyed, and therefore, not available to CFIA.
Now, what I want to make sure that we have very clear in this chamber today for all members here and all members of the public is that ISA poses no risk to human health. I don't want people leaving this chamber for one second thinking that ISA is a problem to human health.
Mr. Speaker: The member has a supplemental.
Interjections.
Mr. Speaker: Members.
Just take your seat for a second, Member.
Members.
Continue, Member.
M. Sather: Well, in my time in this House that has got to be one of the worst answers I have ever heard. The minister is really making a mistake in going this route.
Those fish were tested by the World Organisation for Animal Health. Now, if the minister wants to quibble with the worldwide body that's responsible for fish health, go ahead — fill your boots — but you're making a big mistake.
And you're making a big mistake about not taking what's happening to our fish, our wild fish, our salmon farm fish in this province…. You're not taking it seriously, Minister, and you ought to be ashamed and apologize right now.
Interjections.
Mr. Speaker: Members.
Hon. D. McRae: By all means, we take this incredibly serious, and don't for one second think that the health of wild salmon is not hugely important to the government of British Columbia and the people of British Columbia.
What's really important, though, is that when an allegation or a test is done, we make sure that the protocols are done to make sure that CFIA can ensure that these results were fair, accurate and basically making sure that they react accordingly.
One study needs to be backed with another. CFIA is working hard diligently to make sure those results are being done, using the sample that they do have available, not the two fish that have gone missing. We want to make sure that the CFIA will move forward and act accordingly once the information is done and made available.
http://www.leg.bc.ca/hansard/39th4th/H11019y.htm

Grant G said...

TEST RESULTS FOR DISEASE
IN WILD SALMON

M. Sather: The infectious salmon anemia virus has been discovered in wild salmon in Rivers Inlet. This is a potentially devastating disease that hasn't been reported before in the North Pacific. The Chilean farming industry was devastated by this same virus: $2 billion in losses, production cut by half and 26,000 people laid off.

We have a lot more to be concerned about here in British Columbia as well. We have our world-renowned sport-fishing industry, our commercial industry and our First Nations food fishery.

Now, Dr. James Winton, who leads the fish health research group at the Western Fisheries Research Center in Seattle, called this outbreak a "disease emergency." My question to the Minister of Agriculture is: does he agree with the assessment of Dr. Winton?

Hon. D. McRae: Well, we've got another example of spinning media headlines and fearmongering from the opposition.

The reality is this. The lab results were sent to P.E.I. They were sent to P.E.I. They were not following protocol when, instead of actually contacting CFIA, they went directly to SFU, which in turn went to the media.

[1415]

When CFIA then, in turn, said, "We'd like to do our test samples," and said, "We'd like to test the fish," well, unfortunately, I'm advised that the tested-positive results at the P.E.I. lab were destroyed, and therefore, not available to CFIA.

HSE - 20111019 PM 010/hbw/1415

turn, says, "We would like to do our test samples," and said, "We'd like to test the fish," well, unfortunately, I'm advised that the tested-positive results at the P.E.I. lab were destroyed and, therefore, not available to CFIA.

Now, what I want to make sure that we have very clear in this chamber today for all members here and all members of the public is that ISA poses no risk to human health. I don't want people leaving this chamber for one second thinking that ISA is a problem to human health.

Mr. Speaker: The member has a supplemental.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members.

Just take your seat for a second, Member.

Members.

Continue, Member.

M. Sather: Well, in my time in this House that has got to be one of the worst answers I have ever heard. The minister is really making a mistake in going this route.

Those fish were tested by the World Organisation for Animal Health. Now, if the minister wants to quibble with the worldwide body that's responsible for fish health, go ahead — fill your boots — but you're making a big mistake.

And you're making a big mistake about not taking what's happening to our fish, our wild fish, our salmon farm fish in this province…. You're not taking it seriously, Minister, and you ought to be ashamed and apologize right now.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members.

Hon. D. McRae: By all means, we take this incredibly serious, and don't for one second think that the health of wild salmon is not hugely important to the government of British Columbia and the people of British Columbia.

What's really important, though, is that when an allegation or a test is done, we make sure that the protocols are done to make sure that CFIA can ensure that these results were fair, accurate and basically making sure that they react accordingly.

One study needs to be backed with another. CFIA is working diligently to make sure those results are being done, using the sample that they do have available, not the two fish that have gone missing. We want to make sure that the CFIA will move forward and act accordingly once the information is done and made available.

Grant G said...

BLIC RELEASE OF REPORT
BY AGRICULTURAL LAND COMMISSION

L. Popham: It's just not information on fish health that this minister is not taking seriously. This minister and the two before him have kept a report by the widely respected chair of the Agricultural Land Commission under wraps for almost a full year. And as a consequence, the commission has been unable to act on recommendations from the Auditor General. My question is to the Minister of Agriculture. Why are you keeping this report from the public?

Hon. D. McRae: I'd also like to congratulate my critic opposite, since this is the first question that I've had from the critic of Agriculture opposite in the first eight months.

Congratulations.

It's also the first question that the opposition has raised….

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members. Members.

Continue, Minister.

Hon. D. McRae: I'd also like to point out that it's the first question about the ALC we've had in this chamber since 2008.

But aside from that, I want to take the opportunity to thank Richard Bullock. He is the chair of the ALC. He has toured the province last fall. He received input from over 60 organizations and hundreds of individuals from every region of the province.

I want to make sure that the people in this province and in this chamber again know that the member opposite….

Interjections.

Hon. D. McRae: Oh, I'm sorry. It threw me for a loop because I haven't been up very much because I haven't got many questions.

This government is committed to protecting farmland and maintaining the independence of the ALC.

[1420]

Mr. Speaker: The member has a supplemental.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members.

Just take your seat for a second, Member.

HSE - 20111019 PM 011/age/1420

Mr. Speaker: The member has a supplemental.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members.

Just take your seat for a second, Member.

Interjections.

Mr. Speaker: Members.

Continue, Member.

L. Popham: Over the past years the Liberals have taken no action on five of the nine recommendations from the Auditor General on ways to improve the struggling Agricultural Land Commission. During that time acres and acres of agricultural land have been covered in construction fill, rendering it unfit for farming, an issue which the Auditor General addressed in his report and an issue that this minister is now responsible for.

Again to the Minister of Agriculture: when exactly are you going to release that report?

Hon. D. McRae: I find it a little comical that the opposition tries to criticize this government's handling of the ALC. That is the party, opposite, that removed 20,000 hectares of land from the ALR when they were in power, which is in direct contrast to the 39,000 hectares of land that have actually been put into the ALR.

You know, I don't want the facts to get scared, because we have a real lack of policy coming from the opposition, so I'm going take my chance to ask. To the critic opposite: does she support the now leader of the NDP in his decision back in the '90s to override the ALC, something this government doesn't do, and allow a golf course to be built on prime ag land near the city of Kamloops?

Is this a foreshadowing of things to come, if the NDP were ever to form government in British Columbia? That's what I want to know

Anonymous said...

The answer is ...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
and the corruption that goes with it.

Anonymous said...

What an asshole.

Don F. said...

Grant,
My God how embarrassing is that guy? Our wildlife doesn't have a hope in hell! Not a danger to humans! We'll see once the salmon are desimatted , the grizzlies gone, the birds of the air, we'll see how well us humans fair.
Christie Clarke stating that now we have a shipbuilding contract we will be able to fix CLBC .... what??? What if that contract never came would she just have them all die? And let's look at the value of the contract. It equals less than one third of the debt B.C. Hydro has taken on in the LAST TWELVE MONTH PERIOD and we are supposed to be celebrating. Now we will face a labor shortage because our institutions of learning and apprenticeships are woefully lacking, how far will eight billion go and we can be sure Ottawa will demmand value for their[our] dollar.
When I first heard this contract was awarded I worried she, Christy Clark, would see it as a way of avoiding all issues and right out of the gate that is what she does, Pathetic!!
Don

Anonymous said...

I saw some time back now. The Norwegians said, we have bad news for you, we are not removing the fish farms.

Kick the evil s.o.b. bunch of them, right out of our country, back to their own. The Norwegians also diverted a river, for their dirty tar sands oil project. They thieved a river. To hell with asking them to remove their fish farms. Rip them out, we will give them the same courtesy. They have not one lick of respect, for our eco system. Do they give a damn, they destroyed other country's salmon industry, as well as ours? The fish farms should be ripped out of every country, right bloody now.

As far as the ship building. The company is the Washington Marine Group, the same company Christy's brother was involved with. The name has been changed to SeaSpan. Dennis Washington is the American billionaire, who owns the ship building company. Don't be surprised if, they don't bring in their own American ship builders. We won't have "experienced" ship building people. They can also stick to their "buy American", for their building materials.

The tear down of the smelter in Kitimat, went to an American company, they brought their own workers.

China is also sending their people to school, to learn how to speak English, they will work our coal mines.

The eight mines going into Northern BC. If they are foreign owned by China, the U.S. or who ever. Perhaps they too will bring their own miners.

Christy is definitely not protecting BC jobs.

kootcoot said...

"China is also sending their people to school, to learn how to speak English, they will work our coal mines."

I'm not that concerned about this, better them than us, better yet leave the crap in the ground rather than putting it into the air.

My grandfather, his father and everyone except the lighthouse keeper in the village in Northcumberland went out under the North Sea to dig coal everyday with the hope they wouldn't blow up, get crushed or drown. My grandfather moved to Southern Illinois to be at least underground digging coal without an ocean overhead as well. But then midway thru his working life he said fuck it and decided to go to sea and be on top of the ocean rather than under it and spent the rest of his life as a merchant seaman, including during WWII - feeling safer than back underground, underwater even with U-Boats hunting them I'm sure.

I've never had the slightest inclination to go underground, especially after coal, though asbestos and uranium likely have their downside as well. It does seem that most coal this days is done open pit or mountain top removal style, but though it may be a bit safer for the miners, it still sucks for the environment both the water and the air.

e.a.f. said...

Poor Don MacRae, we know he is out of his depth as an MLA so as a cabinet minister, well there arent' words to describe where the poor fellow is. For those of us who live in the riding, its like this, there wasn't much to choose from when the lieberals held their candidate selection meeting. I suspect they thought he could wing it because he was younger and had a good constituancy assistant.

So he got elected, but this is a swing riding and the former MLA, Stan Hagen, was a cabinet minister. I suspect they felt they had to give him a cabinet post to hang on to the riding.

Who knows it could be something in the water. We have all seen John Duncan's performance in the Commons regarding the state of First Nation's housing.

Of course the local papers in Campbell River/Comox Valley do not publish these types of articles and the village idiots actually believe these guys are doing a "fine job".

We see the two "village idiots" glad handing at community events, cutting ribbons, and thats it. Neither of them have done the communities any good. Duncan's name has appeared in a couple of newspaper articles advising the population how the feds provided funds for a bicyle trail or two but that's it.

Our hospital in Comox removed 30 accute care beds, people are lined up in the hall way, they lost their accrediation for a year, the staff is over worked. Both Comox and Campbell River have been promised new hospitals but we still haven't even seen them decide where to put the Comox hospital because the first choice was within the danger zone for planes at the airport, oh and it was going to be purchased from "Crown Isle". So cozy.

I don't expect Don MacRae to be all that concerned about the salmon. He and his kind of supporters don't even care about people in the Comox Valley. The local Courtney town council doesn't want a homeless shelter where the homeless congregate, they don't want small affordable apartment's built, they don't want affordable housing built by a local church.
Oh, and the new town mayor supports the "little guy" standing in his cowboy boots next to his rather expensive "custom classic car". He was supported by something called "Common Sense" and we can't find out who they are. I'd suggest they are the same sort who supported Don MacRae.

Do not expect much from the guy. He needs to go back to teaching small children in grade school. Of course, Christie must love the guy. He certainly won't back chatter and he'll do exactly as she and her financial supporters instruct. Of course he might get the instructions wrong, i.e. his performance in the legislature but hey, give the guy a break he really is doing the best he can. Ya, I know its scary.

If you want to see what type of political organization MacRae has just have a look at who supported "Common Sense" candidates in the Comox Valley. Oh, I forgot, we can't find out who they are but I think it not unreasonable to conclude they are land developers, expensive housing developers, realestate developers, resort developers, mine developers, etc.

Oh, yes MacRae doesn't care about salmon, he cares even less for the shell fish industry which has been providing jobs here for years. They are going to build an underground mine around Fanny Bay, which will most likely leach poisons into the ground water and filter into Barnes Sound.

The mine workers will most likely be brought in from China. The coal will be driven in trucks via the Port Alberni highway, which is barely big enough for two large trucks, and shipped via their harbour. Yes Don MacRae and John Duncan, enviornmentalists of the year, as long as that enviornment provides bags of profits for them and their supporters and friends. Forget it if you are a salmon, a shell fish, a working person, a person in need of health care, etc.

Anonymous said...

"China is also sending their people to school, to learn how to speak English, they will work our coal mines."
Already done. In Tumbler Ridge they have bought the rights to underground coal; beside the river, where else, have bought one of the motels in town to house their workers, are buying up property all over the place, and have no intention of hiring anyone but Chinese to work the mine. My question is - what's in it for me? Answer: absolutely nothing. There are plenty of Canadians who would work underground for the big bucks the mining industry pays in BC. But there is no way they can compete with the 'little bucks' brought in cheap from China. (and thank you Grant - I would never be able to make a comment like that on thetyee or the CBC (Canadian Bullshit Corporation)

Grant G said...

8:56pm....I moved your comment to the above post..

Hope you don`t mind.

Cheers

Hugh said...

Here's a CBC story today about the salmon virus:

http://www.cbc.ca/m/rich/technology/story/2011/12/20/technology-cohen-salmon-virus.html