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Wednesday, February 26, 2014

Rich Coleman, The Habitual Liar,He Can`t Stop Fabricating, It`s In His BC Liberal Blood



Rich Coleman on February 22/2014 made this outrageous statement while giving a 30 minute speech on LNG..

Read it carefully..

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"I get a kick out of some of the other folks out there saying: 'You're behind schedule.' "No we're not. We're actually right on the time frame that I established."

One thing that works in the government's favour is the scale of the enterprise. The values are so vast that even delivering a fraction of the potential could count as a win.

Coleman said: "They say: 'They can't all go ahead.' "I say: 'OK. Let's have three.' That's $100 billion. That's 100,000 jobs."

It's that comfort level that's giving him the kicks, and the amusement. snip..


http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/comment/story.html?id=9cc9a3fd-2f0b-4b77-b2e1-40ddae5a1039&k=33176


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One large LNG plant has at most 250 to 300 permanent direct employees, peak construction employment including pipeline and plant construction workers is about 3500 temporary workers, at the peak of construction....

And now Minister of hot air Rich Coleman is telling British Columbians that 3 LNG plants will create 100,000 jobs..

Let`s look at the proof as written, as written by the BC Liberals..

In the BC Liberals 2013 election platform 8 individual  LNG energy companies are listed as proponents for LNG builds....Christy Clark talked about 1/2 dozen or more LNG plants, 8 proponents listed in BC Liberal platform.....Below is cut n pasted from BC Liberal 2013 election platform

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"LNG facilities are currently proposed by business groups that include some of the world`s biggest energy companies-Shell, Imperial, Chevron, British Gas, Petronas, SK & and ES of South Korea, Inpex and the Chinese National Offshore Oil Corporation, to name some of the major players, it`s no fantasy.
The projects mean 39,000 jobs to British Columbia during construction with another 75,000 full time jobs created once in operation. We can create 1 $trillion dollars in economic activity and create the BC Prosperity fund with $100 billion over 30 years.

An opportunity this good faces lots of global competition. Premier Christy Clark and Today`s BC Liberals have worked diligently to enable LNG as an economic generator for decades to come."
(BC Liberal platform at below link)

http://files.flipsnack.com/iframe/embed.html?hash=fhcjsxtd&wmode=window&bgcolor=EEEEEE&t=13660594461366059618

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Can`t you see, Clark and her fellow BC Liberals including Rich Coleman were talking 6 or more LNG plants getting built, 6 or more LNG projects to create 100,000 jobs, now Rich Coleman just last week is claiming that a mere 3 LNG plants getting built and operational would create 100,000 LNG related jobs..

Because....According to Rich Coleman`s new LNG employment numbers if BC had 6 LNG plants built, we would need over 200,000 employees...And if we go back to Christy Clark`s earlier wild claims about having 12 LNG plants...She never mentioned 400,000 employees...

Rich Coleman is sticking to that 100,000 plus job numbers no matter what...

Hmmm...

Here is what the LNG energy company British Gas had to say about employment numbers for their proposed British Columbia LNG plant., statement was made early in 2013..

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"BG intends to build a facility on Ridley Island capable of producing 21 million tonnes of LNG a year. Called Prince Rupert LNG, it would be built overseas in modules and shipped to Prince Rupert for assembly.

 Even so, the plant would create 3,500 jobs during construction,

 250 permanent direct jobs and another 250 spinoff jobs.

 BG says it is planning to build it in two phases, beginning in 2016.
The first phase — two seven-million-tonne-a-year processing units, or trains — is to be completed by 2021" 

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So, British Gas who have/had plans for a big LNG plant, 3 trains, pipeline from northeast BC to Prince Rupert, peak construction 3500...a mere 250 full-time direct LNG plant jobs, and anther 250 spimoff jobs, ....Even if you added 1,500 employees for well/rig drillers, you don`t come close to 33,000 jobs....There are the numbers..and take a good look, built in Korea and shipped here, assembled here, meaning hardly any financial spinning will be coming to BC manufacturers..

Perhaps Rich Coleman or Christy Clark can tell me, or tell  the B.C. Public how 1 LNG plant will create 35,000 jobs......., 32,000 permanent full-time jobs from 1 LNG plant, Rich Coleman on February 22/2014 claimed 3 LNG plants would create over 100,000 permanent jobs..

I`ll make it real easy Rich Coleman...Show me where you get 34,000 jobs from 1 LNG plant..


 

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9 comments:

North Van's Grumps said...

Page 8 ROYALTIES

Page 9 ROYALTIES with an 8% Discount

February 18, 2014 document:

Ernst Young

1 http://www.bcbudget.gov.bc.ca
2 Analysis of the competitiveness of BC’s proposed fiscal framework for LNG Projects

February 18, 2014

The Province engaged EY to develop a high level analysis of a proposed fiscal framework applicable in BC and to compare this against the current comparable fiscal frameworks in Australia and specific US States in order to provide an indication of its relative competitiveness. The projections in this Report are not estimates of revenues to be collected, and are merely to facilitate a comparative analysis of the fiscal frameworks.

As described above, the cost and operating inputs into the analysis have been provided by the Ministry on the basis of a set of hypothetical data and have been compared to other industry benchmarks. The assumptions do not contain any project specific inputs. ......

e.a.f. said...

Bill Tielman's column about the Lieberals and their plans was really funny with the ACID/LNG thing. So maybe Coleman is just on a bad acid trip when he is talking about the LNG. its about the only thing which makes sense. trillions of dollars, 100k jobs, upp, sounds like an acid trip to me, because it just doesn't make sense the way Coleman explains it.

e.a.f. said...

After Colorado legalized M.J., they vopted to impose a 25% tax. According to some reports, the state has now taken in about $100Million in taxes from that one product. Might be about time B.C. starts to market their best horticultural product. With $100M ever couple of months in taxes and no real environmental impact, its way better than LNG. It actually would create more jobs for people in B.C. it certainly made a lot of drug lords money. One made the Forbes list.

Colorado is making money. they plan on using the taxes for schools. Its not like people are going to stop smoking it. Government has made a lot of money off of liquor over the years. With a provincial government debt of some where north of $60Billion, its time to find a new source of income.

Hugh said...

Max and Stacy talk about fracking:

Starts at 5:00

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3OnfPQEH0o#t=306

Sounds applicable to BC.

Look Up said...

Think big, folks.

Imagine a time when the American Empire and the Pax Americana ends.

Then what?

Canada, Mexico, Taiwan, South Korea, Phillipines and Japan? Better pay real close attention to what's going down here.

James F said...

The propaganda has stopped working.

People noticed the yawning gulf between fact and fiction.

They noticed there was a lot more fiction than fact these days.

If the system was not dependent on fiction and endless propaganda in-depth then this general demoralization would not have occurred.

Scripted mass-media and government liars and corporate myths are the major cause.

Early WWII MSM propagandists knew that their fiction content must not be mixed with fact more than a maximum of about 10% of total content, or else people noticed the fiction and the propaganda gradually lost effect, then stop working, then its effect went into reverse, it disgusted people until they no longer cared.

Once it stops working there is no quick fix, it usually takes decades or else major political and social changes.

The problem in a nutshell is that at the same time the MSM and politicos pushed the envelope of fiction content levels, the ability to detect the fictional official content also increased.

I would suggest to you that this is an increasing feature of the western world. Lies are poison to morale, and truth is more desirable as a result, thus propaganda has lost traction.

But simultaneously direct coercion is being resisted all the more. The loss of trust coincides with police state tactics and thugs spying.

The demoralization, disenfranchising and fractionating is so deep due to all that obnoxious and intrusive state activity.

OK, no one's overrunning the parliament buildings or taking the legislature by storm, but this is only because no one really believes those institutions matter or are worth the effort anymore.

They also are not responding to State control anymore. The system is now so demoralized and all due to the state's own behavior and lies, that the system is in serious trouble, even though the people are not actually revolting.

They didn't revolt during the Soviet Union's collapse either, they just became deeply demoralized, defeated and unresponsive to a broken system, where the propaganda did not work any more, and they gave up on it, and let it all go to hell.

Sound familiar?

Jon Ghun said...

Coleman beaves like a paid-off buffoon because he's owned. And here's why he is where he is:

12 year old Victoria Grant Explains The National Debt and What's Killing Canada (and the Rest of the World).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx5Sc3vWefE#t=16

For more information see: http://www.publicbankinginstitute.org.

It is also posted at https://vimeo.com/41954094

Hugh said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3OnfPQEH0o#t=306

I wondered if you agree with what Max says about fracking, at 6:03

cheers



Grant G said...

I agree 100% with Max...LNG and fracking is an economic Ponzi scheme, how many times have I said it..

The math doesn`t work, just imagine $1 trillion dollars on renewable energy, or nuclear thorium reactors..

No more greenhouse gases and enough electricity for the entire world..and no methane, no explosions, no poisoned water..

LNG is a dud Hugh...BC Liberals are drunk on dud Kool-Aid.

Cheers