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Thursday, July 7, 2011

Smart Tax Alliance...LIARS LIARS LIARS

Well well well, The Smart Tax Alliance has had to take down Jim Stanford`s email and retract from saying the CAW endorsed the HST in Ontario or BC....Boy oh boys are those guys desperate, I also received a robo call from the Smart Tax Alliance last night, it was about a 90 seconds long, it didn`t ask how I voted ....In fact all they did was promote a 10% HST without mentioning July 1st 2012 or July 1st 2014...It was shameful, the robo call also used statements from both Jack Mintz and Jim Dinning, the Smart Tax Alliance LIARS(YES LIARS) quoted the Dinning numbers about families being ahead $120 dollars under a 10% HST and....And they used Jack Mintz`s numbers for investment by 2020....They didn`t use the Dinning numbers of $2.3 billion dollars of additional new investment by 2020  but they used the Disgraced Jack Mintz numbers of $12 billion in additional investment by 2020....Gawd are they desperate, they are grasping at anything that moves....The Smart Tax Alliance LIARS are now using a combination of statements from Jim Dinning, Jack Mintz, Cristy Clark and Santa Clause on robo-calls......

I visited 6 different seniors over the last week, way out in the sticks, I casually mentioned the HST and asked how they were voting, boy did I get an earful, an earful about how the BC Liberals are lying on their ads, it brought a big grin to my face, it`s still there, 6 seniors asked and 6 seniors were furious about the HST and even angrier about being lied to in false ads!..They are all voting against the HST......

So anyway, I had no idea that the Smart Tax Alliance had illegally posted Jim Stanford`s email and attributed it too the CAW until reading both the Tyee and listening to the man himself, JIM STANFORD.....

Bill Good had his 9:30 am segment completely backfire on him, .....Billy boy brought on Jim Stanford to explain his and the CAW union position on the HST....Bill Good thought that Jim Stanford was pro HST...But the fine Mr. Stanford made Billy Boy look like the fool, Jim Stanford told the radio listeners that the SMART TAX ALLIANCE was made to TAKE DOWN HIS(Jim Stanford`s) PRIVATE PERSONAL E MAIL AND RETRACT ANY ASSOCIATION TO THE CAW UNION, ........And Mr. Stanford didn`t stop there, he further said that the Smart Tax Alliance are desperate and grasping at straws....My robo-call confirms that....

So...Billy Good was still trying to raise his jaw .....Bill Good then asked Mr. Stanford what his position and stance on the HST....And what Mr. Stanford said floored Billy Boy.....Jim Stanford said....


The HST hasn`t helped the auto industry in Ontario....The HST has many drawbacks, there are many pros and cons.....the HST is more helpful in a manufacturing Province like Ontario... the British Columbia HST has many drawbacks.....The HST means nothing to an exporting province.....

At this point Billy Good realizes he`s been set up and deep fried.....Billy Good tries to pin Jim Stanford down on the HST and asks Jim Stanford...

"But you ARE in favour of the HST are you not"

Jim Stanford said ......

No, the HST is a regressive tax, it costs middle income and low income earners more of a percentage of income......I`m in favour of no sales tax,  income tax from workers and corporations for all social services and the running of government.


At this point Billy Good is just twisted with the segment, not only did Mr. Stanford slam the Smart Tax Alliance Liars, not only did he debunk any notion that the HST helps an export province but he also stated that....

Economic forecasts and predictions are useless, these economists run their theories and pray, any economic forecasts should be taken with a grain of salt.....Billy Good quickly ended the segment....

So what we had was the Smart Tax Alliance taking a copy of a 2009 scanned email ....They posted Jim Stanford`s personal email and attributed it too the CAW....Jim Stanford called the Smart Tax Alliance sleazy....And he forced them to take it down and retract....

Oh...One more thing...Jim Stanford on AIR categorically denied that the CAW union is supporting the HST....The CAW has remained neutral on the HST....Anyway, the Smart Tax Alliance are sleazy lying bastards...And Jim Stanford was honest on the radio today...Jim Stanford said ...In a nutshell..The HST is regressive, other world factors affect business way more than the HST, countries or Provinces that are MANUFACTURING hubs benefit more from the HST than resource export provinces....

That makes perfect sense, that`s why the Atlantic Provinces who had had the HST since 1996 are year after year leading the country in unemployment, that explains why no corporations have set and manufacturing or head offices in Atlantic Canada...The East Coast, like the West coast is an exporter...The HST is nothing but a massive tax grab and Federal sellout....

I recommend that you all cue-up the CKNW audio vault...July 6th .. Cue up 9:00 am...fast forward to 9:30 am...The segment runs from 9:30 am to 10:00 am..

Over at the Tyee....Jim Sinclair has a story up(check out the comments from David Robertson and Cool Hand, after you listen to the CKNW audio vault)...A David Robertson from the smart tax alliance and Cool Hand Luke are putting up quite a fuss...They are making up facts out of whole cloth, many many lies, in fact a Mr. Robertson and Cool Hand are talking like fools....These clowns are so stupid.....Cool Hand Luke and David Robertson(smart Tax Alliance) are talking like.....

They are talking like they never heard Jim Stanford on the radio dispute and embarrass the Smart Tax Alliance...Those Trolls are talking like....Like no one informed them that the ....

The Smart Tax Alliance had to remove the Jim Stanford Email and retract the statement that the CAW in anyway is promoting the HST

The Ontario Hst is a very different animal...Dalton McGuinty will lose the election in November over the HST...McGuinty announced the HST in the middle of his term, not days after an election where you promised many groups that THERE WILL BE NO HST...McGuinty also gave away almost $1000 dollars to EVERY Family BEFORE the HST even came into affect....McGuinty put up an accurate list of what was going up in price...McGuinty debated the HST in their legislative house for 3 sittings...2 spring sessions and one fall session....Here in BC the legislature was shut down, debate cut short, the fewest sitting days in BC History...

All is good folks...The HST anger as reemerged, the lying ads, the blatant abusive calls from the Liars at The Smart Tax Alliance.....The BC Liberals made a huge mistake...Their phony ad campaign...It might have worked if...

If they flooded the airwaves, newsprint, TV, radio with phony ads and has a one-day vote like a regular election maybe the trickery would have worked...For now the BC Liberals and The Smart Tax Alliance tricked the voters, the pulled a ruse, a sting, a scam, false advertising, misleading quotes, no time-lines and using PAST TENSE when referring to a 10% HST...

One older woman I talked today, she was happy when she heard the ads from the Smart Tax Alliance(last week) and then when her friend and husband explained to her  that the HST will be at 12% until next July and no 10% HST until July 1st 2014(if you believe a BC Liberal)....She blew her top and was even angrier about another deception....Made me Smile Again!

The tide is ebbing folks, the Anti-HST forces are rolling again, the deliberate advertising deceptions and ballot question trickery has re-angered our friends.

Lastly....If you won the HST referendum by hook and crook Cristy Clucking Clark.....Your fate would be sealed, you would lose the election in a landslide...Reduced to a handful of seats...

Time for me too clue you in Crusty....You are a sacrificial lamb....Your job is by crook to ram the HST tax through and both you and the BC Liberal Government are expendable!

Enjoy the Audio Vault.....You are nothing but a lying cheat Mr. Jagger....And in my opinion...You are a PST tax cheat who made a deal with the BC tax department for your support on the HST.....Bring it on!

The Straight Goods

Cheers Eyes Wide Open

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Great article. that is just how I feel about Jagger and the Smart Tax Alliance. The advertising campaign by the Liberals and Smart Tax Alliance makes me so angry I have to turn off the TV and radio when I hear them. they are so deceptive.

Do they really think we, the people, are so stupid. I have voted YES to extinguish the HST and everyone in my family and all my friends have voted the same way.

Anonymous said...

As usual B Good finds it hard to tell the truth. He is so far up the lieberals and big biz's ass, he can't see the truth from inside there. He is hoping like his GF Pammy to get a plum government / senator job. What a waste of skin.

Kam Lee

Anonymous said...

Geesh, I hate pictures of those 2 a$$holes. Make me sick, of all of them under the lieberal name, and those who support the worst money managers this province has ever seen.

Vote YES to extingush the tax.

Anonymous said...

The First Nations people, had requested from Hansen, that a study of how the HST would impact the F.N. citizens. Hansen ignored several requests and phone calls. Falcon finally told the F.N. people, a study would not be done. This has resulted in, the F.N. people are voting, yes to extinguish the HST.

The F.N. citizens, has asked to be exempt from the HST, as they are in Ontario. Campbell did a vendetta against the FN, they had opposed Campbell, the dumping of toxic waste into Fish Lake and other dangerous pollution. Campbell refused them and said, they would benefit from the jobs the HST would bring BC.

Campbell spoke, with a forked tongue. BC is still bleeding jobs. BC gained no jobs, while the rest of the western provinces did. Big business, trickled no money they saved by the HST, down to the consumer. The cost of living has gone up, considerably much higher.

Christy's family's first, have to use credit cards to get by. How terrible is that? Thousands of BC family's are still in debt, because of the recession.

The HST benefits big business Christy, there is no benefit for your family's first, seniors and low income citizens.

Crankypants said...

There is a saying that any lawyer worth his salt will not ask a question of a witness unless he knows what the response will be. It is obvious that Bill Good and his producer do not subscribe to this credo.

We have been fed a line of bull from the government, economists and the Smart Tax Alliance to such a degree that their verbiage could fertilize the most barren land one could imagine and make it into a viable farm. They must all think that we are so stupid that we will just accept whatever they say without question.

Many people may not really give a lot of thought to things political, but I suspect that most of them do pay attention to how far their money stretches. When their finances no longer cover their day-to-day expenses, they start to pay attention. The problem is that no one feels an instant hit to their pocket when taxes or fees are increased. The lag time between any changes to taxation and its effect work to the advantage of the government. It's only when people find that their income no longer is sufficient to cover the costs of living that they become motivated. I suspect that a good number of those that were complacent at the outset of tax changes have now realized that their lot in life has been impacted negatively and are now up in arms.

Let's hope that this anger translates into a rejection of the HST now and carries on to the destruction of the BC Liberal Party come next provincial election.

Cam

Paul said...

Jim Stanford accused Bill Good of repeating the false claim that the Canadian Auto Workers Union supported the HST in Ontario.

On CKNW's website however, the false claim is STILL there.

"Bill Good Show - Wed July 6 - Hour 1
THE CANADIAN AUTO WORKERS UNION SUPPORTS THE HST IN ONTARIO ..."

Here is the podcast of the complete interview (MP3) commercial free.

http://emedia.cknw.com/Podcasts/1116/Bill_Good_Show_-_Wed_July_6_-_Hour_1.mp3

Anonymous said...

I had the opportunity at the June 2, 2011 debate in Surrey with Bill VZ, Bill T, for Yes to stop the HST side vs. (Smart) Lying Tax Alliance with CJ? Sidhu (went rabid), Debi Stone and Peter Leitch for No to keep the hated tax...to tell Debi Stone at the end of their propaganda speel what I thought of their 'performance'. I passed her in the washroom at which time I told her they were all liars.

Debi Stone joined our circle after the 'show' and I again told her they were all liars and not one word of truth came out of any of their mouths.....to which she replied......."I don't really believe in what I said up there".

Pointing to the table the three no's sat at I said "Then why in the hell would you be sitting at that no table?"

Needless to say I was shocked that she would say that and treat the very serious issue of the HST this way.....to keep her job I guess and she didn't want to be painted with the same brush as the lying Sidhu and Leitch. Too little too late, they were all lying.

This is the kind of BS we have had to put up with, which still continues, with the removal and tampering of our many YES to STOP the HATED TAX signs and the millions of dollars of OUR money Cluck Cluck is wasting on false and misleading "info". These people know no shame.

Jean