tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post8500835506654755987..comments2024-01-08T21:00:24.932-08:00Comments on The Straight Goods: Open Letter to Bill Vander Zalm(Updated)Grant Ghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11944976348166120530noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-72635681811314246982010-08-13T13:54:26.561-07:002010-08-13T13:54:26.561-07:00I have read, Campbell is really a Conservative, fr...I have read, Campbell is really a Conservative, from the past. He and Harper travel together. They have photo-ops. Harper, even gave a speech, in the BC Legislature. They colluded on the HST, which goes, directly to Harper. They are working on, China projects together. They just spent more time together, at a BBQ here in BC. He is never seen with Ignatieff, who said, the Liberal party, has a bad name, but, not by me. I will vote for no-one, even remotely associated with Campbell. I heard on TV, two M.P's from the east said, Harper is a fascist dictator, and too stubborn to work with. The east seems very disenchanted with Harper, and want him gone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-82345787937054759222010-08-12T15:24:20.464-07:002010-08-12T15:24:20.464-07:00Wait for a corrupt, absolutely corrupt, justice sy...Wait for a corrupt, absolutely corrupt, justice system to decide if the HST Extinguishment Act failed to satisfy legal requirements....????? Craig James, another of Campbell's chosen ones, is incompetent and corrupt and "can't understand" the Act as written. How many millions are we paying him?<br /><br />Dictators always corrupt and control the entire jurisdation they rule. Waiting years for a corrupt judge, corrupt lawyers and the legal system itself to make an honest and fair judgement will never happen and is a waste of our millions probably a billion tax dollars with all the secret law suits Campbell is in. <br /><br />All member businesses of the big 6 suffering from the HST should cancel their memberships and refuse to pay the enormous legal bills Campbell and his gang will cost them and the B.C. taxpayers again and again and again in supreme court.<br /><br />IMO<br /><br />GENERAL STRIKE<br /><br />RECALL IN THE FALLjaydeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13897581398617875658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-40464577977294309142010-08-12T07:14:18.580-07:002010-08-12T07:14:18.580-07:00Recall as many Liberal MLA + 2 or 3 more that will...Recall as many Liberal MLA + 2 or 3 more that will bring down the government and recall Carole James.<br /><br />This should send a message to the NDP that Ms. James must go too.<br /><br />Then we must boycott all businesses funding the court case against the Zalm's petition. AND I MEAN BOYCOTT!<br /><br />The public is simmering and this may be the last straw before the public opt for a cruder RCMP BC style sort of recall - a .38 to the back of the head!Evil Eyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-50481178691892707292010-07-02T09:10:35.169-07:002010-07-02T09:10:35.169-07:00Some of us see Campbell as a dictator, and his hen...Some of us see Campbell as a dictator, and his henchmen cower and do his bidding. It seems any honest official, that has to make their decision, following the law, find themselves out of a job. I have read, Campbell controls the Judicial system, the RCMP, the media. I read, the corruption case, of the sale of the BCR is being tried in a corrupt court. BC citizens believe the trial is a farce. It seems, Martyn Brown, has amnesia, he recalls, not one dammed thing. Makes a person wonder, if he can find his way home. Campbell is actually, Harper's boy. They say, Campbell is really a Conservative, flying under a Liberal flag. I watched on the telly, M.P's in the east saying, Harper is a fascist and, too stubborn to work with. The HST isn't known as, the Harper Sales Tax for nothing. Not only do we have to fight Campbell, we also have to fight Harper. Dictators, don't go by the law or what is right. BC people see, Campbell, Hansen and the BC Liberals, as an ugly dictatorship entity that, does cruel things to good people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-64496227104075906062010-06-25T13:53:30.086-07:002010-06-25T13:53:30.086-07:00Grant you are absolutely correct on the Big Media....Grant you are absolutely correct on the Big Media. They are the reason I started my blog. After reading BC Mary's and Kootcoots And not wanting to clog them up with my thoughts and being really pissed about BC Rail I decided to start How Bad Is The Record? I wanted initialy to help Mary and Koot and to put some of my unprintable thoughts out there. It worked but then I found that I was blogging about everything<br />You have a way Grant of allowing me to vent in reading your words. It helps a lot.<br />Now all my time is pretty much consumed with Fight HST, so I am passing along info to Koot and Mary for them to publish. Hopefully after Sunday I will get more time to attend to my blog. There is a lot left to be said.<br />So keep up your good work Grant it helps a lot of us.<br />Cheryl I know how busy you are going to be. I just got the word for the short time we have to get the other information in.<br />I wait with much anticipation for August 14 2010<br /><br />"I'm as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore."Gary Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10640964040603349900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-59444274330517516432010-06-24T22:23:02.120-07:002010-06-24T22:23:02.120-07:00Cherylb.....
Maple ridge...Hmmm...My second home....Cherylb.....<br /><br />Maple ridge...Hmmm...My second home...<br /><br />The bowling alley...The witch..baileys..<br /><br />Perhaps we have met already.<br /><br />I will be in Maple Ridge on tuesady.<br /><br />Old friends and a BLAST FROM THE PAST!<br /><br />"And good ole friends were drinking whiskey and rye.....<br /><br />Took the last train to the coast, the day, the music died"<br /><br /><br />SalutGrant Ghttp://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-59884635608560751072010-06-24T21:20:23.635-07:002010-06-24T21:20:23.635-07:00Well Grant, I can safely say that I totally agree ...Well Grant, I can safely say that I totally agree with your first point! But I don't believe you are crazy. I told you, I like your blog.<br /><br />Unfortunately, I won't be at the Lighthouse. My husband and I moved to Maple Ridge in mid-February. But have one for me........:)cherylbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-73366459298660025272010-06-24T19:20:36.520-07:002010-06-24T19:20:36.520-07:00Thanks friends...I indeed come across like a wild ...Thanks friends...I indeed come across like a wild man sometimes, I too don`t believe in recalling all Liberals at once...But all deserve recall....<br /><br />When I started this site.....<br /><br />I thought to myself...Media, the big media, all of them...They report on Government saying things like...Campbell really shouldn`t do this, or that wasn`t too smart, or...<br /><br />Children may be affected, it may cost seniors.....In other words they were subtle, soft, forgiving.....<br /><br />I made up my mind to tell The Straight Gooods, call it as I see it,no pussyfooting around....<br /><br />And, maybe I am bi-polar, maybe I`m crazy, maybe I have multiple personalities...<br /><br />I jest of course, but...I consider this place a multi-author site....<br /><br /><br />Cherlb...are you going to be at the lighthouse on Saturday?<br /><br />Rumour has it....Grant G may make an appearance.<br /><br />Dark shades, black leather, you can`t miss me.<br /><br />CheersGrant Ghttp://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-44037298915854741152010-06-24T18:29:29.667-07:002010-06-24T18:29:29.667-07:00Cool Gary.... Your riding is one of the ones that ...Cool Gary.... Your riding is one of the ones that I think we should start with. And I don't happen to agree with Bill and Chris about the strategy they have been publicizing, but again, if we are to succeed it needs to be carefully planned, organized and focused.cherylbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-77159586621934364792010-06-24T15:24:21.116-07:002010-06-24T15:24:21.116-07:00Grant I assume yoou are aware that there is a bran...Grant I assume yoou are aware that there is a brand new party starting up. Not the Conservatives, not the Socreds, but a NEW party. This is why I have alluded to vote splitting.<br /><br />This party in my opinion is praying on the people of BC just like the Reform did federally. The reform used Gun control to recruit. This new party is using everything the Liberals have done to the people of this province. Yet they are not being specific. There is big trouble on the horizon my friend. And I don't trust them just as I didn't trust the reform party. I won't even publish their party name.<br /><br />And Cherylb I think you are wrong about the systematic recall. I disagree with Grant as well. Personally I would like to see the first six or seven on the list recalled. But I also realize that in doing this it may take down the government. You both know what riding I'm in and what I intend to happen here. Cheryl you are right that not all 6500 canvassers are for the recall. But I can tell you that in this riding I haven't heard of one who is against it. And what we have heard here is Liberals, red faced, mad as hell rushing to sign this initiative. One of those suggested to me that this initiative should be considered the "referendum" I agree. Another advises that they are or have been a life long Liberal and was so mad he all but screamed at me he would be voting NDP. So, yes, if there is any time wasting then recall in the fall. And Cherylb, you forgot to mention that it could well not be one of the 6500 canvassers or 300 Captains but it could be many disgruntled Liberals who were double crossed by Campbell. My riding is surrounded by three other ridings and these things I have heard come from them as well as Lower mainland tourists. I'm afraid my friends even though Grant may seem out of control at some times he is not the only one. Oh, and did you know he has voted Liberal before.<br /><br />And Cheryl I removed and saved the Post we had discussed and I will be posting it again on August 15th or before.Gary Ehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10640964040603349900noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-9070383973186264552010-06-24T11:58:33.583-07:002010-06-24T11:58:33.583-07:00The 24 Liberal MLAs targeted for Recall includes 1...The 24 Liberal MLAs targeted for Recall includes 10 cabinet ministers and the Speaker of the Legislative Assembly Bill Barisoff.<br />---<br />1. John Slater – Boundary-Similkameen<br />2. Pat Pimm – Peace River North<br />3. Donna Barnette – Cariboo Chilcotin<br />4. George Abbott – Shuswap (Minister of Aboriginal Relations and Reconciliation)<br />5.Terry Lake – Kamloops North<br />6. Bill Bennett – Kootenay East (Minister of Energy, Mines, and Petroleum Resources)<br />7. Ida Chong – Oak Bay – Gordon Head (Minister of Healthy Living, Sport and ActNow BC)<br />8. Ron Cantelon – Parksville – Qualicum<br />9. Bill Barisoff – Penticton (Speaker of the Legislative Assembly)<br />10. Murray Coell – Saanich North (Minister of Labour)<br />11. Gordon Hogg – Surrey-Whiterock<br />12. Barry Penner – Chilliwack – Hope (Minister of Environment)<br />13. Norm Letnik – Kelowna-Lake Country<br />14. Ben Stewart – Kelowna- Westside (Minister of Community and Rural Development)<br />15. Steve Thomson – Kelowna – Mission (Minister of Agriculture and Lands)<br />16. Eric Foster – Vernon-Monashee<br />17. Kash Heed – Vancouver- Fraserview<br />18. Kevin Kruger – Kamloops South (Minister of Tourism, Culture and the Arts)<br />19. Richard Lee – Burnaby North<br />20. John Les – Chilliwack<br />21. Don McRae – Comox Valley<br />22. John Rustad – Nechako Lakes<br />23. Mary Pollack – Langley (Minister of Children and Family Development)<br />24. Pat Bell – Prince George – Mackenzie (Minister of Forests and Range)<br />---<br />That's half of the 48-member Liberal caucus.<br /><br />Chris Delaney says the list is meant to pressure MLAs to do the right thing and resign or turn against the HST before being recalled.<br /><br />Vander Zalm says his Fight HST organization has already secured a web site.Paulnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-27858213895637999302010-06-24T11:26:32.363-07:002010-06-24T11:26:32.363-07:00Sorry. One last thing. You all should spend some t...Sorry. One last thing. You all should spend some time on Bill Tielemans' FB group "NO BC HST". You get a real feel for all the different reasons people are angry and the only constant is the HST.cherylbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-42860195252437198782010-06-24T11:17:38.513-07:002010-06-24T11:17:38.513-07:00I'm sorry Henri. I don't know the answer t...I'm sorry Henri. I don't know the answer to that.cherylbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-37887657967547888122010-06-24T11:16:49.368-07:002010-06-24T11:16:49.368-07:00Grant - do you always believe everything you read ...Grant - do you always believe everything you read in Canwest papers?<br /><br />No insult intended. You appear to be very touchy about someone disagreeing with you. Never said your blogging hasn't contributed to the success of the campaign either.<br /><br />Recall is not about toppling a government. It is about telling a single MLA that you want to take your vote back. If you tell enough of them that, it will topple the government.<br /><br />Anti-HST sentiment didn't galvanize in Ontario because they didn't have a leader and/or an organization to pull it off and because McGinty has been preparing the people for it and bribing them with cheques. People in BC are mad about the HST because they are trying to pull themselves out a recession while the government puts the boots to them while lying about the fact that they intended to institute it.<br /><br />You (and lots of others) are upset about those things you listed, but apparently not enough of us because the Liberals were just elected for a third term. What I've been hearing are four things: the lie about it, the lack of consultation when it's such an important policy change, the fact that we're being bribed with our own money, especially when the Cons have run up such a huge deficit, and the loss of our ability to make our own decisions about our provincial taxes.<br /><br />What I see or don't see has nothing to do with whether recall will succeed. If the focus is not kept on the HST, we will not succeed.<br /><br />However, I'm done discussing this. Since you know what should be done, I'll expect to see you taking an active organizational role in one of the many simultaneous campaigns that you advocate for.<br /><br />By the way, just to let you know. I have been reading your blog for a long time and I actually really enjoy it. But you're not always right. No one is. You should learn to admit that once in awhile.cherylbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-56882969526157599462010-06-24T09:27:32.888-07:002010-06-24T09:27:32.888-07:00I have a question for Cherlyb.
When are you people...I have a question for Cherlyb.<br />When are you people going to replace Carol as your leader?<br />The BC NDP will remain dead in the water as long as she is your leader....... <br /><br />Henri PaulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-89726480856492619412010-06-24T08:58:51.486-07:002010-06-24T08:58:51.486-07:00Cherlyb
"If I have really been canvassing&q...Cherlyb<br /><br /><br />"If I have really been canvassing"?.....<br /><br />Now that it an insult.<br /><br />Listen up ...You obviously haven`t been reading my site for very long.<br /><br />There has been no other site with more information on the HST than this, this site put Jack Mintz in the gutter...<br /><br />You want your brownie badge,here have it.<br /><br />I think you are too close to the campaign to be critically objective.<br /><br />And again...Michael Smyth column today, again talk about only recalling 1 or 2 to put pressure on Campbell.<br /><br />And you are assuming way too much Cherlyb<br /><br />What does recall campaigns have to do with the NDP? Recall is about bringing down the Government....<br /><br />If Gordon Campbell in his riding can`t be recalled so be it, but recall has to be done in enough riding`s to bring down the Government.<br /><br />And while canvassing I talked to hundreds of people, there are many issues...<br /><br />For example, BC Hydro increases to home owners cost as much or more than the HST hit.<br />Education cuts...Raising minimum wage..<br /><br />Why do you think the anti-HST outrage didn`t galvanize in Ontario?....Not because they haven`t got recall or initiative......<br /><br />Because in B.C. it was the last straw in a long line of betrayals from Gordon Campbell, McGuinty hadn`t screwed the public in Ontario on so many issues...<br /><br />If you can`t see that the HST is a minor thing in the big picture of what is happening here in B.C.....<br /><br />We simply can`t allow this Government to proceed on it`s path.<br /><br />And finally, the reason why the signatures tallies have waned is....<br /><br />Canvassers realize we have the required signatures and have eased off.Ghttp://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-39264707678633365482010-06-24T08:11:15.915-07:002010-06-24T08:11:15.915-07:00Let me be perfectly clear. Everyone does not feel ...Let me be perfectly clear. Everyone does not feel as strongly about the Liberal government as you do. They do, however, all feel the same way about the HST.<br /><br />Collecting 40% of signatures from targeted ridings for recall is a whole lot more difficult than collecting 15% against a tax. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. And you must have noticed, since you obviously get the Progress Report I send out every week, how drastically the weekly numbers have fallen.<br /><br />If you think that anger about the HST has translated into general anger at the Libs, think again. Time and time again I have been told that people are angry about the HST, but not sure that they want an NDP government. And if you really have been canvassing Grant, you would have heard it too. Although our MLA has lots of support and is not threatened.<br /><br />We need to hope that the BC Conservatives get it together and find candidates for targeted ridings. Another right wing party is a good thing for us; not a bad thing. Especially if we target ridings with a strong NDP support base. The Greens have divided the left for too long; it's time the right was divided.<br /><br />It would be stupid and inviting failure to go off half-cocked and start recalls everywhere. The best plan is to pick ridings carefully (considering many variables), allocate all the volunteers we can get, stay focused on the HST and get the job done as quickly as possible. One by one. Everyone here knows the Libs are too arrogant to back down; so either we will eventually recall enough to form government, or there will be a mass exodus to another party. It is extremely important to succeed with every recall, especially the first one, or the momentum will be lost and we will be screwed until 2013.<br /><br />As a New Democrat, sadly, I am used to losing. How about we use our brains this time to succeed?<br /><br />I also resent your innuendos about my ability to see a clear picture around this campaign. After all, I'm the one who got off my butt and did something to help give British Columbians a concrete way to fight the HST; as opposed to people who stay home and blog. No offense intended. Blogging's cool; but it don't organize campaigns.<br /><br />One last thing - the army of 7,000 is NOT an army of 7,000 volunteers who want to see the NDP elected. The 670,000 people who signed the petition are NOT all NDP supporters. The 26 Regional Organizers are not all New Democrats. The 300 Captains are not all NDP. I can guarantee that a lot of them will not help topple this government by holding mass recall campaigns.cherylbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-47172887663658112712010-06-24T07:42:21.835-07:002010-06-24T07:42:21.835-07:00Agreed Crankpants...15 recall campaigns sound abou...Agreed Crankpants...15 recall campaigns sound about right..My point was really about recalling 1 or 2...<br /><br />That`s absurd.<br /><br />And yes Leah, I heard and read those statements from Campbell...<br /><br />And indeed, it`s time for Carole James to go ....<br /><br />Like Gary E said...We simply can`t afford another provincial party in the pockets of big business...The pendulum needs to swing left.Grant Ghttp://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-34814483978422221462010-06-23T23:37:06.195-07:002010-06-23T23:37:06.195-07:00Then I'm pretty sure that CherylB knows what I...Then I'm pretty sure that CherylB knows what I'm saying about Carole is true. Not that it brings any good feelings along with it. Knowing that the BC Conservatives are gaining ground on the NDP, and knowing what many people are asking her to do - one would think the future of the province is more important than holding on to the bitter end. Who knows...maybe some digging and asking direct questions might be in order with the Official Opposition too?<br /><br />Grant, my newest concern is a statement made by Campbell..not verbatim but close enough..."I will do whatever it takes to ensure that the NDP never again forms government in British Columbia." A statement made at his big get together not long ago. Translated, I think it means that he fully intends to gut the recall act...to insure that it can't be used against him before such time as his marching orders have been fulfilled.<br /><br />I have no doubt that he has them, one doesn't trip to NYC to meet with only God knows who numerous times...nor do they "entertain" Dick Cheney for no reason. The clincher was the Bilderberg meeting...before he's done, all hell will break loose in BC. Just a feeling...<br />.Leahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-81494750108188160392010-06-23T23:35:30.129-07:002010-06-23T23:35:30.129-07:00I don't know what would be gained by recalling...I don't know what would be gained by recalling only one or two Liberal MLAs at a time. That would just give Gordo, or his successor should he decide to abdicate from his throne, the opportunity to use any tactics they can come up with to stand by their decision to go ahead with the HST.<br /><br />I also don't think that trying to recall every Liberal MLA is the right way to go either. In my opinion, targeting about 15 of them that are in ridings in which recall is likely to succeed would be a better tactic. This way valuable resources would not be wasted on those MLAs that would likely survive a recall campaign. <br /><br />The objective is to remove the BC Liberal party from power, but we must also make sure that whoever takes over will do the right thing and tell Harper where to stick his HST.<br /><br />We will only get one kick at this, so we have to get it right.<br /><br />CamCrankypantsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-18028036064190795862010-06-23T23:33:44.617-07:002010-06-23T23:33:44.617-07:00Thanks Grant.
It's time for every BC Liebera...Thanks Grant. <br /><br />It's time for every BC Lieberal to bend over and take one for democracy.<br /><br />Recall 'em all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-70909028510760662902010-06-23T20:54:39.995-07:002010-06-23T20:54:39.995-07:00I leave the easy ones for others.
Something trick...I leave the easy ones for others.<br /><br />Something tricky is happening with the Zalm.Grant Ghttp://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-61076058197166930672010-06-23T20:33:14.792-07:002010-06-23T20:33:14.792-07:00Grant - I'm surprised that you have not made a...Grant - I'm surprised that you have not made a statement on the latest breaking news about the habitual lair Gordo! <br /><br />CSIS Director Richard Fadden led tonight's broadcast on CBC News with a shocking accusation that so-called "agents of influence" for foreign governments are elected officials in at least two Provincial cabinets (BC included), and "several" municipal elected officials in British Columbia are also under investigation (Dianne Watts).<br /><br />And a little birdie has also told me that the liar Gordo's cabinet is infested with them. Once the news breaks, recall will be irrelevant. Gordo and his cronies will fall immediately.<br /><br />I'm surprised that you have not followed up on this breaking story yet!!!!!<br /><br />It's like manna from heaven. Break open the champagne bottle once you have fully investigated this one!<br /><br />Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-90212533923731140792010-06-23T20:04:10.499-07:002010-06-23T20:04:10.499-07:00And Cherylb.....Do you know who you can really tru...And Cherylb.....Do you know who you can really trust?<br /><br />HST is a whole lot of free advertising, free advertising for political parties that were long since dead.<br /><br />Their not dead anymore!Grant Ghttp://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-24708240308344430662010-06-23T19:42:55.471-07:002010-06-23T19:42:55.471-07:00Well Miss Cherylb....
Let me be perfectly clear, ...Well Miss Cherylb....<br /><br />Let me be perfectly clear, the HST is a terrible tax, but....<br /><br />The HST ranks about number 10 on the list of terrible deeds committed by Gordon Campbell` Government.<br /><br />We simply can`t afford to allowCampbell to destroy the environment, sell more assets, sign more contracts with IPPs..Enbridge, decimate wild salmon, we are on the cliff....<br /><br />Campbell will not back off of the HST, he will stall, he will promise to bring a bill to the house(there will be no fall session in Victoria)..He will promise a referendum, a unwinable non-binding referendum!<br /><br />Recall is our only power, and only if we recall enough MLAs to bring down the Government.<br /><br />And...If a miracle happened and Campbell cancelled the HST recall would be next to impossible at that point.<br /><br />What everyone needs to remember, and Leah alludes too it all the time...<br /><br />The HST is bad, but the HST is nothing but.....<br /><br />Wag the Dog...Keep your eye on the ball, the bigger sins are flying under the radar....The whole HST scam reminds me of the movie..THE STING<br /><br />Cheers, think outside the box friends.Grant Ghttp://powellriverpersuader.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.com