tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post8478282383777173698..comments2024-01-08T21:00:24.932-08:00Comments on The Straight Goods: John Horgan Approved Site C for LNG industry Proponents-Site C Power is Big LNG Bait....Site C power, paid for by BCers is...Freebie carrot power on offer to big LNGGrant Ghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11944976348166120530noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-19240559571620660702017-12-23T09:02:42.288-08:002017-12-23T09:02:42.288-08:00BC keeping the public in the dark?BC keeping the public in the dark?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-69944632618703051572017-12-22T16:09:36.938-08:002017-12-22T16:09:36.938-08:00Hi Grant, wondered what you thought of this. Does ...Hi Grant, wondered what you thought of this. Does this sound like what's happening in BC?<br /><br />From:<br />https://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/china-one-belt-one-road-loans-debt-by-brahma-chellaney-2017-01?barrier=accessreg<br /><br />China’s Debt-Trap Diplomacy<br /><br />"Through its $1 trillion “one belt, one road” initiative, China is supporting infrastructure projects in strategically located developing countries, often by extending huge loans to their governments. As a result, some of these countries are becoming saddled with debt, leaving them even more firmly under China's thumb. <br /><br />NEW DELHI – If there is one thing at which China’s leaders truly excel, it is the use of economic tools to advance their country’s geostrategic interests. Through its $1 trillion “one belt, one road” initiative, China is supporting infrastructure projects in strategically located developing countries, often by extending huge loans to their governments. As a result, countries are becoming ensnared in a debt trap that leaves them vulnerable to China’s influence.<br /><br />Of course, extending loans for infrastructure projects is not inherently bad. But the projects that China is supporting are often intended not to support the local economy, but to facilitate Chinese access to natural resources, or to open the market for its low-cost and shoddy export goods. In many cases, China even sends its own construction workers, minimizing the number of local jobs that are created."<br />Hughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-49782436161782715342017-12-17T16:26:35.672-08:002017-12-17T16:26:35.672-08:00Site C is a drop in the bucket compared to the IPP...Site C is a drop in the bucket compared to the IPP fraud.<br />Geez haven't heard much about that from the NDP.<br />After a lifetime of disappointment we should realize that the left/right paradigm is the real culprit. <br />A false paradigm that always keeps liars in leadership no matter what color their tie is.<br />Cheers....Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14910857222409981609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-20302834226185766632017-12-17T13:01:40.220-08:002017-12-17T13:01:40.220-08:00Thanks Grant for posting on this and allowing comm...Thanks Grant for posting on this and allowing comments before taking a well-deserved Christmas break.<br /><br />What a heart-breaking decision, so stupid and so short-sighted; not governing for "seven generations" at all and betraying the province, their core supporters, First Nations and the environment. There's no way I can vote NDP again or donate or canvass.<br /><br />After a few days of mulling things over, I wonder if the NDP got snookered by the senior bureaucrats and the Vision Vancouver types who were so liberally (pun intended) recruited into the new governing "elite". An elite who are relentlessly conventional and can't see the forest for the trees.<br /><br />The financial "justification" for going ahead with Site C is complete and utter bullsh**. <br /><br />But I could see the senior mandarins and bankers successfully "baffling them (the new NDP cabinet) with the bullsh**" of a supposed downgrade of the province's credit rating.<br /><br />I still think John Horgan is a good guy and that there are many fine and principled MLAs and Cabinet Ministers.(Although Michelle Mungall and George Heyman leave me cold). And maybe big money influenced the mandarins? I sure hope it is not LNG and/or water for California.<br /><br />Very sadly I also don't think this terrible decision augurs well at all for tackling the housing crisis, restoring the ALR, protecting the environment or all the other problems besieging our province which need a very strong and very progressive approach a la Bernie Sanders/Tommy Douglas/Dave Barrett.<br /><br />Andrew Weaver leaves me cold too. I have some hope that Sonia Furstenau has principles, a solid commitment to the environment and political acumen.<br /><br />off-the-radar<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-23294412449863170732017-12-13T20:43:23.198-08:002017-12-13T20:43:23.198-08:00Off topic in the news today:
"Wild salmon ex...Off topic in the news today:<br /><br />"Wild salmon exposed to open-net fish farms are much more likely to be infected with piscine reovirus (PRV) than those that don't have that contact, a new study has concluded."<br /><br />http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/new-research-shows-wild-salmon-exposed-to-fish-farms-have-much-higher-rate-of-disease-1.4446839Hughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-67164525754211258962017-12-13T14:34:13.614-08:002017-12-13T14:34:13.614-08:00I cannot believe that Hogan is so stupid to even t...I cannot believe that Hogan is so stupid to even think, that LNG would ever happen. Still, I am bitterly disappointed in the go ahead decision. As stated, the costs will balloon to at least 14 billion. They only needed to look at Keeyask and Muskrat Falls. What is wrong with these people. The MSM is already on the offensive. As if they stated any facts in LNG or Site C. What hypocrites. J MacDuffnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-20619469244986272422017-12-13T10:39:41.577-08:002017-12-13T10:39:41.577-08:00Just so I'm clear on this: BC hydro rate payer...Just so I'm clear on this: BC hydro rate payers and tax-payers are supposed to fund a $10.7 billion (that number keeps growing) dam project, in order to provide subsidized electricity to the natural gas industry for fracking and piping? <br /><br />Fed Govt is trying to tell us that LNG is a clean alternative to fossil fuels - duh. LNG is a fossil fuel.<br /><br />See number 7:<br /><br />https://pm.gc.ca/eng/news/2017/12/04/canada-china-joint-statement-climate-change-and-clean-growth<br /><br />Mr. Horgan also said recently that Site C was for providing capacity for additional renewables (IPPs). Oh wonderful.<br /><br />Hughnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-26396412297551313302017-12-13T08:56:42.451-08:002017-12-13T08:56:42.451-08:00https://www.coastclarion.ca/im-extremely-disappoin...https://www.coastclarion.ca/im-extremely-disappointed-site-c-is-a-monument-to-nineteenth-century-technology/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-90591252532660149312017-12-12T13:26:08.612-08:002017-12-12T13:26:08.612-08:00I'm curious now whether the NDP will also capi...I'm curious now whether the NDP will also capitulate on electoral reform and whether the fix is already in for the "review" of professional reliance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-15662558431704985022017-12-12T12:53:33.791-08:002017-12-12T12:53:33.791-08:00Horgan did not drink the kool aid, oh no, he drank...Horgan did not drink the kool aid, oh no, he drank electoral hemlock.<br /><br />The NDP are a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde Party all normal before an election but all BC Liberal stupid after the election.<br /><br />A NDP type has told the "Eye", that Geof Meggs is actually running the party and Horgan is a mere figurehead, over his head in BC politics.<br /><br />Unwilling or unable to read history, they have just said "fuck off" to their base and embraced the criminal Christi Clark!<br /><br />I;m afraid this is the end for the NDP as it will morph into a true labour party, supported by the big public unions, but no more.<br /><br />Mr. Weaver and his Greens, will become the official opposition in the 2021 election (or before) as the Liberals will again run the province for the next 30 years.<br /><br />The NDP are for all intents and purposes dead, they stand for nothing and they will do nothing; a yesteryear's party fighting yesteryear's problems.<br /><br />The Green Party has now become he peoples party, with all its warts and abrasions. Horgan has killed the NDP in one fell swoop and the sad thing is, he doesn't realize it yet.<br /><br />The "Eye has always suspected that the NDP had a Liberal plant, a Quisling, in the NDP hierarchy to ensure bad decisions are made and losing platforms become common place. Take your choice, Horgan himself; Geoff Meggs, Adrian Dix; or Carole James?<br /><br />Sad to say, my money is on all three Meggs, Dix and James.<br /><br />Adios the NDP and good riddance!Evil Eyenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-48902752255468045932017-12-12T12:17:18.652-08:002017-12-12T12:17:18.652-08:00Like JR, I have been a NDP supporter since the lat...Like JR, I have been a NDP supporter since the late sixties. I contacted the BCNDP a week ago telling them my family support, both financially and at the voting booth would end if they went ahead with this project. Just cancelled my monthly donations and support. This felt worse than losing a election!R0bnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-22264165431728999912017-12-12T11:13:56.551-08:002017-12-12T11:13:56.551-08:00Premier Horgan threw all of us under the bus with ...Premier Horgan threw all of us under the bus with this one so I just tossed the NDP under the bus. I have voted NDP in every election since the 70's but no more. This is a huge disappointment and I can no longer support them in good conscious. I thought they were better than this but no longer. I contacted the BCNDP and told them so. What a disgrace. <br /><br />A former big NDP supporter.JRnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-61702527227274982062017-12-12T07:09:26.681-08:002017-12-12T07:09:26.681-08:00Still reeling over this decision. Politics in this...Still reeling over this decision. Politics in this province is a horror show - they look like normal people by day, but they are all marching zombies. Yesterday the truth was revealed. I thought Mr. Horgan looked very nervous and uncomfortable giving the announcement. As well he might. What a rotten day for BC! <br /><br />Grant, I know from a previous post you were planning to take a vacation from blogging. For that reason, I just want to give a special thanks for taking the time to do this post now as it is a great comfort to those of us left flabbergasted by this awful decision and wondering what the hell happened. <br /><br />Your work is very much appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-84048674122020770522017-12-12T07:00:56.438-08:002017-12-12T07:00:56.438-08:00When you have a close call to make, a 50/50 risky’...When you have a close call to make, a 50/50 risky’ decision, one that may appear to be no win.. it is best to go with the action that takes the high ground no matter the challenge. Inspire and lead for the right reasons and long term. <br /><br />This is a cowardly decision. ‘Christy’ Horgan breathes new life into the almost dead SiteC rogue white elephant. A huge disappointment and failure for us and future generations.<br /><br />This SiteC decision is a continuation, a capitulation to more of the same Christy Pirate BC Liberal (and Trudeau neoliberal) action plan.<br /><br />This billion dollar boondoggle only supports profits for the select few and and enormous costs for our future. The resulting major pollution and attack on our natural world. Here in BC and every where on our world the living environment is being destroyed t an accelerating rate. So much for profits and a promising future. I do not see much hope. The fix is in and we seem to be racing towards self destruction..<br /><br />Thanks for all your insight and passion Grant. We need an uprising to take back our sanity and future.<br /><br />Billnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2435367521078186829.post-6636334341480288822017-12-11T22:52:47.679-08:002017-12-11T22:52:47.679-08:00smoke and mirrors a feather in horgans capp.?
htt...smoke and mirrors a feather in horgans capp.?<br /><br />https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/trade-tribunals-ruling-could-derail-future-of-lng-in-bc/article37300960/<br /><br />3.85 to 2.85 in 12 months-<br /><br />http://www.nasdaq.com/markets/natural-gas.aspx?timeframe=1y<br /><br />https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/Putin-Inaugurates-27-Billion-LNG-Arctic-LNG-Plant.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com